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    Default Re: Liberals did not destroy the American school system.

    It is probably worth disambiguating the two tests labeled SAT in the US. One is a college admission test, the other a series of tests for assessing performance during K-12.

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    Just to clarify, from what my experience was in applying to universities, the SAT was heavily favored among the west coast uni's while the midwest and east coast uni's put a bigger emphasis on doing the ACT.

    I personally felt that the ACT was overall a much better test than the SAT.


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    um im sorry you have that backwards with regard to the SAT. The midwest takes the ACT plain and simple. California is a little different in that alot of people take the SAT but also quite a few take the ACT. The east coast takes the SAT plain and simple. The SAT was designed for elite east coast universities and that is the test everyone here on the east coast takes.

    That being said it is irrelevant because colleges look at both and weigh them equally so it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    um im sorry you have that backwards with regard to the SAT. The midwest takes the ACT plain and simple. California is a little different in that alot of people take the SAT but also quite a few take the ACT. The east coast takes the SAT plain and simple. The SAT was designed for elite east coast universities and that is the test everyone here on the east coast takes.

    That being said it is irrelevant because colleges look at both and weigh them equally so it doesn't matter.
    I know that people in California take both. If you read my post, you can see I took both. :rolls eyes:

    I guess I was mistaken about east coast uni's, but that was what I was told. If you want to get into Boston University(random example) or whatever then you need to take the ACT.

    Also just because they look at both doesn't mean they weigh both the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gutmensch View Post
    I know that people in California take both. If you read my post, you can see I took both. :rolls eyes:

    I guess I was mistaken about east coast uni's, but that was what I was told. If you want to get into Boston University(random example) or whatever then you need to take the ACT.

    Also just because they look at both doesn't mean they weigh both the same.
    colleges do weigh them both equally you don't know what your talking about. They usually take one over the other and then convert the score if you take one.

    http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/a...s-say-1.281246

    just because I fleshed out my explanation doesn't mean you have to roll your eyes

    Your just wrong about East Coast universities. They take both obviously as does every other university in America but they convert their ACT scores to SAT scores. I am sure there are a few schools which only accept one or the other but the overwhelming majority (i would say in the high 90th percentile) take and accept both. The vast majority of students on the East Coast take the SAT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    colleges do weigh them both equally you don't know what you're talking about. They usually take one over the other and then convert the score if you take one.
    Of course, and universities will say that everything is all equal when it comes to race. Admissions are perfect and nothing is valued more than the other.

    Also, the bold is where I fixed your grammar.

    Also, the underlined is where you make no sense. By definition, taking one over the other is putting a preference on one. By "converting" one score to another it leaves it open to determine how exactly do they convert it?

    http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/a...s-say-1.281246

    just because I fleshed out my explanation doesn't mean you have to roll your eyes
    You didn't flesh out anything. All you did was say "your wrong, you don't know what you are talking about." like a ****.

    You're just wrong about East Coast universities. They take both obviously as does every other university in America but they convert their ACT scores to SAT scores. I am sure there are a few schools which only accept one or the other but the overwhelming majority (i would say in the high 90th percentile) take and accept both. The vast majority of students on the East Coast take the SAT
    Another FTFY in bold.

    Where are you pulling all this from? Oh wait, you have lived in multiple states so you have "experience" that I don't have. Of course.


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    Has nothing to do with where I lived; this is common knowledge. You can convert the scores online yourself its not a bleeding secret. I'm sorry my grammar isn't good enough for you.

    Scores have one score that they take for the majority of the time and they usually convert the other to that score. If I apply to Iowa they take the SAT's scores and turn them into ACT scores. If I apply to Dartmouth then they traditionally look at the SAT so they will convert my ACTscores to SAT scores when calculating my admissions. Bringing race as an anecdote into this stupid argument is a Red Herring. They have nothing to do with each other and you are simply using race as a measure of unfair admissions practices. This is not comparable nor is it one. Your just wrong.

    http://www.uiowa.edu/admissions/unde...onversion.html
    conversion table

    http://mitadmissions.org/apply/freshman/tests
    MIT's views on the matter

    http://www.ivybound.net/newsletter/primer.html
    more equality talk

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A9669D8B63
    Is the NY times reputable enoguh in its facts?

    ou didn't flesh out anything. All you did was say "your wrong, you don't know what you are talking about." like a ****.
    uhhhhh no. I did not.


    um im sorry you have that backwards with regard to the SAT. The midwest takes the ACT plain and simple. California is a little different in that alot of people take the SAT but also quite a few take the ACT. The east coast takes the SAT plain and simple. The SAT was designed for elite east coast universities and that is the test everyone here on the east coast takes.

    That being said it is irrelevant because colleges look at both and weigh them equally so it doesn't matter.
    Not sure where your getting the rocks to be insulted and call me a ****. You were wrong and I corrected what you believed. This wasn't malicious or meant in an insulting way it was simply alerting you too certain facts. Now you are more knowledgeable about the process and won't look silly if you ever tell an east coaster something about how they take the ACT. Not sure where your being insulted enough to resort to common muck slinging and vulgarities.

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    Default Re: Liberals did not destroy the American school system.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Gutmensch View Post
    Also, the bold is where I fixed your grammar.
    Really a spelling fix, rather than a grammar fix.

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