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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim View Post
    so which one is Herman the German?

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    Ariminus.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    Ariminus.
    I thought it was Arminius. meh. either way, he gets my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim View Post
    I thought it was Arminius. meh. either way, he gets my vote.
    You're right. It's "the Armenian", not "the Ariminian" (from Rimini).




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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    You're right. It's "the Armenian", not "the Ariminian" (from Rimini).
    His name has nothing to do with being armenian, though. "The Armenian" would be Armenicus or Armeniacus. Some believe it to be a the latinized form of a germanic name with a meaning of "the great"; another explanation is that it could be the nomen gentile of the roman citizen who was his patron, before "going native" again.
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    Yes but it is a good indicator of spelling.




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    why do germans call him herrmann then :?

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    Arminius is obviously not a german name. We don't know the german name but Arminius was part of germanies national idealogy and so he needed a german name. As far as I know the first mentioning of the name "Hermann" is from Luther, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonburn View Post
    why do germans call him herrmann then :?
    I believe it was during the Reformation his name was Christianized. German protestants were looking for a national hero who symbolised their struggle against Catholic Rome and who better than the victor of the Teutonberg Forest? However it wouldn't do to have a pagan represent the spirit of German Protestantism so his name was changed to sound more Chrisitian.... I think.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim View Post
    I thought it was Arminius. meh. either way, he gets my vote.
    My apologies for the spelling, I was a bit distracted with Cassivellaunus.

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