EB Online EDU v2.1 - RELEASE!

**Kival** · 07-19-2011, 05:47

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

The Iberian ones are pretty ridiculous form what I've seen last year.

Could you elaberate that? I've played them a few times now so I can perhaps say something about if they are still ridiculous.

**Lazy O** · 07-19-2011, 06:35

The anti elephant slot can be taken up by charger cavalry.

**-Stormrage-** · 07-19-2011, 07:29

First of all, Which SKirmishers have AP???

and

why is there a limit of 5 missiles, when the missile class includes Slingers Archers AND horse archers. While there is a limit of 6 skirmishers but the skirmisher class only includes ONE type of unit SKirmishers. It doesnt make sense though i can live with it.

and robin i think even if you make them cheaper they wont be any better, i dont see whats the point in making them cheaper , they will still be useless.What do you hope to get by making them cheaper ?

EDIT: and hey guys, those thraikian pelteasts are supposed to be the best of the peltestai , right? So i gotta ask what makes them better then all the other peltasts ?

**Lazy O** · 07-19-2011, 08:01

Better javelins. Better armor. Better melee. Does not insta rout. All round awsome units.

**-Stormrage-** · 07-19-2011, 14:36

Originally Posted by Lazy O

Better javelins. Better armor. Better melee. Does not insta rout. All round awsome units.

thraikians dont have better javelins. but the rest is true

I made the skirm rule do you couldn't spam an auto run-away army. I suppose we can lift skirm restrictions and just add something to fair play rules to deal with skirmishing stalling.

yes, i feel the skirmisher restriction is not fair for factions that rely heavily on skirmishers like luso for example. restricting skirmishers for luso is like restricting cohorts for rome.+ skirmishers are not that good so limiting them is unnecessary.

Lets say a person got an "auto run-away army" full of skirmishers , he wouldn't win a battle against a balanced army from ANY faction. That is what balance is all about its about having the EDU so balanced that spam army of any unit never wins against a well balanced army.

**gamegeek2** · 07-19-2011, 14:41

I misplayed against that gaul army. Engaged too early. Also that Luso army wont work well now without goidils, but the new general bonus should help some.

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 07-19-2011, 14:46

Lusotann get no access to archers though and its hard to say that Balearics are worth their price when matched against archers. Therefore, most players will see those skirmishers shot to pieces by archers before they can get around back and start pelting enemy infantry.

**Lazy O** · 07-19-2011, 15:38

They would be very much worth it if cavalry were real cavalry and could kill slings and archers within seconds!!!!!!!

And why in bloody hell do Chalkispedes cost only 2400? Being elites phalanx with 15 morale?

/rant

**antisocialmunky** · 07-19-2011, 13:44

Originally Posted by Kival

Could you elaberate that? I've played them a few times now so I can perhaps say something about if they are still ridiculous.

Iberian ambushers have the crazy ability to murder the crap out of cavalry due to their high morale and ridiculous javelin count. Its the only faction that can feasibly actually get a bunch of their uber skirms and use them to flank and jav in the back.

Charger cav can counter elephants but that's when you have no clue how to use elephants.

I made the skirm rule do you couldn't spam an auto run-away army. I suppose we can lift skirm restrictions and just add something to fair play rules to deal with skirmishing stalling.

**Lazy O** · 07-19-2011, 14:00

I say its fair game, cavalry will still beat skirms anyhow, I know gamegeek2 used that, but it failed miserably against gauls but did well enough against cavalry.