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    So in all probability Dominique Strauss-Kahn walks. Who'd have thunk that a fat, self-satisfied, gilt-edged énarque would speak some sort of truth and that a supposedly dirt-poor, pious, devout Muslim girl from a Third World country would lie through her teeth?

    I wouldn't have. I swallowed the whole indictment on the basis of my prejudices. Now what I'm left with is the question of hat really happened. Was it a set-up?

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    Surprising developments.


    It comes as no surprise that the witness is unreliable. She is poor, lives in house with drug problems, has unexplained dealings from her past. But this is the reality for so many poor, immigrant women.
    The killer for me was always that DSK's semen was found all over the room - it was not just her word against his. Well, about consent it was, but not about a sexual act with a room maid.
    Even if it was a setup, don't be a fool and keep it in your pants. A man in his position is always at risk of some girl hoping to win the jackpot. If I'm ever going to run for office, I'll pay a girl a few thousand euros to go over to my opponent and lick his lolly. Get us some semen. I'll send two fourteen year old boys in a scouting uniform too, just to double my chances.


    A rape case that has disintegrated, or still a setup? From the very beginning no 'conspiracy theory' should've been discarded outright. DSK is a Jewish man with a great chance to become the next president of France, married to an immense American fortune, the head of the IMF, which is busier than ever. Also, France is Sicily, Sarkozy is a dark mixture of Blair, Berlusconi and Putin, but without the Catholic mysticism of Blair, the bungabunga of Silvio, or the strategical finesse of Vladimir. Half the French political class is embroiled in some all-consuming criminal allegation, and especially Villepin's case makes one wonder to what extent the highest levels are abusing the legal system to destroy their opponents.

    Who paid this woman? I would not even exclude the possibility that the DSK side paid her off with a handsome sum. If one learns from the Michael Jackson strategy (buy them off publicly), the clever way would be to make her publicly destroy her own credibility, make a different statement every day, to then dissappear to the Carribbean island where a million dollar await her. Then again, this woman sounds like the kind of woman not clever eneough to understand this case is worth more than 1500 dollars, so I'd try offering her that amount first.
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    He's back!!



    For all you youngsters out there: not talking about the return of DSK, but about AdrianII.
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    Warning: I'm even worse than that Frog.

    For all you youngsters out there: not talking about DSK, but about Louis VI the Fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Who paid this woman?
    A drug dealer, apparently. She appears to have been in cahoots with this man for some time and they say that he transferred several large sums of money to her account in recent months. Of course this could have been 'business as usual' by the standards of her circle. Of which we have learned very little until know.

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    It kinda stinked from day one. I doubt mr 30 is a very nice person but everything screams setup. What I think, he probably ordered a prostitute and someone send up the alleged victim up instead, and he was confused about her not wanting sex and thought she was a roleplaying escort. It would be so easy.

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    Hmm he aint out of the woods yet though is there not a lady in France looking to have a chat with his legal people, if I remember correct her parents were some kind of socialist party aristocrats.
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    Best defense money can buy. So, who set him up to get him out of the IMF? Not having to deal with that Greek bailout ain't such a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    Best defense money can buy. So, who set him up to get him out of the IMF? Not having to deal with that Greek bailout ain't such a bad thing.
    I bought it because he is so obviously a selfish despicable human being - he still is. He may even still be a rapist, just not in this instance.
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    Now the New York Post is claiming that the woman is a hooker as well as a maid.

    So how reliable is this rag? Is there a Noo Yarker in the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    Now the New York Post is claiming that the woman is a hooker as well as a maid.

    So how reliable is this rag? Is there a Noo Yarker in the house?

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    The New York Post isn't meant to be taken seriously. It is halfway between The Onion and the New York Times, so it pretty much fails at either goal of bringing facts or being funny.


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    I shouldn't have been surprised that this was all a hatchet job-- Everything seemed way too convenient, I don't think it was a complex setup, but the chips fell perfectly for his opponents to capitalize on it.

    And Welcome back Adrian.

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    Welcome back Adrian!! I hope you stick around for a while.

    I have nothing to say on DSK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    Best defense money can buy. So, who set him up to get him out of the IMF? Not having to deal with that Greek bailout ain't such a bad thing.
    He's also running for French elections

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    Thanks Panzy!

    Last edited by Adrian II; 07-03-2011 at 08:49.
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    I almost feel sorry for the women. Her life will have been taken apart by an army of consultants that would view every aspect of everything she has ever done. If it was a nun they'd've found the sweetie she stole when 6. Seems somewhat stupid.

    For him, he's lost a job at the IMF - but gained a better shot at becoming the French President. Perhaps a good tradeoff...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I almost feel sorry for the women. Her life will have been taken apart by an army of consultants that would view every aspect of everything she has ever done. If it was a nun they'd've found the sweetie she stole when 6. Seems somewhat stupid.

    For him, he's lost a job at the IMF - but gained a better shot at becoming the French President. Perhaps a good tradeoff...?

    Doubt he is all that happy with all this. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now as nobody who has worked himself up that high can be this stupid. Some phonecalls the maid made prior and afterwards don't exactly speak for her credentials

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I almost feel sorry for the women. Her life will have been taken apart
    Awww, how unfair. All she did was act like a wh prostitute, a money-grubbing liar and a fraudster.

    Payback can be such a chamber maid.

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    All she did was act like a wh prostitute, a money-grubbing liar and a fraudster.”:
    All the charges against DSK are dropped?
    And this man wanted to be the President of France when he is so easy to trick? Only thinks with his, err, bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Only thinks with his, err, bit?
    B...but...there's thirty centimeters of it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    B...but...there's thirty centimeters of it!!
    Well if thats true he must be fainting all the time for lack of blood to the brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    Well if thats true he must be fainting all the time for lack of blood to the brain.


    No, when the little brain has blood the other stops working anyway.


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    Another one rises from the ashes

    Where does one start:

    Happened 9 years ago
    Not reported to the police, but mentioned on a chat show
    Now brought up as soon as cleared from a previous allegation.

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    Just read it. What to say. I believe her that he is a scumbag but it isn't doing her credibly any good either to come up with this now either. If it was a scam as I expected it failed miserably, he is booming in electional predictions. Poor show

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    "he is booming in electional predictions".
    DSK was not the leftist candidate anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "he is booming in electional predictions".
    DSK was not the leftist candidate anyway...
    I thought he was running for the socialists?

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    "I thought he was running for the socialists?"
    He didn't say he was on the race, it was still in the unknown.
    It is true that the media tried hard to persuade the good French people than he was the new saviour but he was the IMF manager, so hardly a Lefty.
    And the PS is not any more Socialist. Social Democrats at best... You can't really see a difference in their program between them and the Righties. They became social-traitors... too much compromise led to prostitution...
    The new left will come, and will resist a little bit more than the President of the International Socialist, the Greek Papandreou who resist to the Banksters' onslaught on his country around half-second.

    Thanks to the limitless greed of the troika made of I.M.F, E.U and the Banksters, the reality of the World Capitalism will become so unbearable than the populations will rebel.
    It will be by the vote. If like in 2005, the vote of the majority should be ignored, it will open the door to the worst...

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    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
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    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Thanks to the limitless greed of the troika made of I.M.F, E.U and the Banksters, the reality of the World Capitalism will become so unbearable than the populations will rebel. It will be by the vote. If like in 2005, the vote of the majority should be ignored, it will open the door to the worst...
    Thus spoke Nostradamus.

    Seiously, I think we are in for a bit of a rough ride with more banks and states defaulting. Sooner or later there will have to be a leftward policy reorientation and a personnel change at the level of institutions like the IMF. But Strauss-Kahn looks like a goner, I doubt that he'll try to to run at all. Some of his many enemies and detractors (inside his party as well as outside of it) will get him before that silly proletariat of yours does.

    Now, back to the really important stuff. What's in inside story on that journalist he is supposed to have seduced/raped/slaughtered wholesale?

    I want the gory details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    Now, back to the really important stuff. What's in inside story on that journalist he is supposed to have seduced/raped/slaughtered wholesale?

    I want the gory details.

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    You do know brenus that your socialist hero got a multibillion insurancy on behalf of the Greeks, for him and his family. He will get rich if Greece goes banktrupt, and it already is

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