The definition of irony. And stupidity.

[HoreTore]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Hm, html code doesn't seem to agree with my pad anymore... Anyway:

A biker died after flipping over the handlebars, hitting the pavement with his head. As he was protesting against the EVIL GUVMENT which has the nerve to tell him he should put on a helmet, he did not wear one, because he's super-awesome and anti-establishment and all that other stuff spoiled 14-year olds with an identity crisis are.

The doctor who pronounced him dead said he would've been alive if he had used one. Yes, the government is truly an evil entity, hell-bent on turning us all into slaves. Durk-a-dur!



The good news is: one less idiot in the world. At least that's something.

[Centurion1]

your a ****

[Rhyfelwyr]

REMOVED

[Populus Romanus]

Isn't impersonating a mod a violation...?

[Gregoshi]

That's one way to tell the government to go to helmet.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Isn't impersonating a mod a violation...?

I'm protesting against the mods. Do they think they are the only ones that can have green text? I can do whatever I was because I an so super-awesome and anti-establishment.

[ajaxfetish]

I'm not sure I see the point. The guy surely knew the dangers associated with riding helmetless. The freedom crowd aren't asserting that helmets are not safer, but that people should have the freedom to take risks with their own lives. He did, and the risk came due. If his family, or other helmet protesters, were complaining about the government's failure to protect him, there might be a story here.

Ajax

[a completely inoffensive name]

You're a ****

Fixed that for you.

/grammarnazi

[Centurion1]

Fixed that for you.

/grammarnazi

/grammar Nazi

[Fragony]

So we should all be wearing helmets because sometimes accidents happen, you can also make a nasty fall when walking. Maybe it's best if we just all stay home

[Ronin]

another Darwin award winner!

[rajpoot]

Why do people protest against such things?
Granted that a man has the right to his own life, but there's nothing wrong in wearing a helmet.

Next they'll be protesting against seat-belts...then maybe against wearing seat-belts in aeroplanes...

That's one way to tell the government to go to helmet.

[HoreTore]

Personally, I find the most amusing part of this story to be that his fellow protesters put their helmets on after the accident... Oh well, better late than never.

[Fragony]

Why do people protest against such things?
Granted that a man has the right to his own life, but there's nothing wrong in wearing a helmet.

It just isn't necessary to wear a helmet. Make bycicle lanes instead.

[Husar]

Personally, I find the most amusing part of this story to be that his fellow protesters put their helmets on after the accident... Oh well, better late than never.

He probably didn't look so cool anymore after the accident.

Concerning people protesting seat belts in airplanes, that's different because by not doing so you endanger the other 2xx passengers in the plane in case you become a human bullet or so.

And Fragony, a lot more people die in motorcycle accidents than by falling while they walk, the speed involved is usually different or do you walk at 50km/h?

[InsaneApache]

I'm not sure I see the point. The guy surely knew the dangers associated with riding helmetless. The freedom crowd aren't asserting that helmets are not safer, but that people should have the freedom to take risks with their own lives. He did, and the risk came due. If his family, or other helmet protesters, were complaining about the government's failure to protect him, there might be a story here.

Ajax

This.

[Fragony]

And Fragony, a lot more people die in motorcycle accidents than by falling while they walk, the speed involved is usually different or do you walk at 50km/h?

Ah we talking motorcycles, thought this was about the bycicles. Every so often another idiot surfaces who wants to make helmets mandatory. Believe the EUSSR is also considering it, fat chance we will do so, not

[CountArach]

I was going to close this thread as it went off the intended topic very quickly, but it seems conversation has continued in a constructive direction. Please maintain this level.

CountArach

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ironic and sad, yes.

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

[rajpoot]

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

And like committing suicide perhaps.

[Fragony]

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

Agreed. If I decide to take a swim with tigersharks wearing Lady Gaga's meat-costume, silly me

[Hosakawa Tito]

Personally, I find the most amusing part of this story to be that his fellow protesters put their helmets on after the accident... Oh well, better late than never.

So he didn't die in vain. The freedom to take a foolish risk when you are only endangering yourself...not everyone is endeared with the nanny state system of micromanaging everyone elses lives. I don't see the story here.

[Sarmatian]

Ironic and sad, yes.

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

It's not that simple. What if he made a turn to avoid a car, if he wore helmet he would have survived, if he didn't, he's dead. Guy who drove the car is facing a lawsuit of inflicting light injuries or manslaughter. Not quite the same. Insurance companies face similar issues - do they pay for permanent disabilities of a person or light injuries if he wore a helmet? A guy on motorcycle hits a pedestrian and is knocked unconscious because he doesn't wear helmet and the pedestrian who got hit dies because there was no one to call an ambulance. If he did wear a helmet he would have stayed conscious and could have called an ambulance and prevent the person who got hit from dieing.

Basically, you're in control of a potentially dangerous vehicle, you owe to yourself and society to protect yourself and others the best you can so that you can be in the best possible condition to help yourself or others if need be, not to mention not to add more troubles to courts and/or insurance companies and therefore waste more tax payer's or private enterpreneur's money. Deal with it and wear a freakin' helmet.

[gaelic cowboy]

It just isn't necessary to wear a helmet. Make bycicle lanes instead.

It's the law to wear a helmet on a bicycle too, at least it is here anyway.

[HoreTore]

Ironic and sad, yes.

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

The story is that he died fighting the cause of disgruntled 14-year olds. If you're 55, you wear a helmet, end of story. Protesting against helmet laws is so retarded I'm lost for words.

And the irony in this story is highly amusing. Darwin is chuckling in his grave.

[Strike For The South]

Ironic and sad, yes.

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

CR

The clean up probably cost me 1/100 of a penny

Damn welfare state

You don't want you money going to a healthcare system that the obese/smokers will take part in

Yet it's ok to spend money to clean up some grey matter that is on the road due to an equally dumb decison

Do

Not

Understand

[Beskar]

Ironic and sad, yes.

But an individual ought to be able to make decisions that aren't in their best interest. Like doing drugs. Was anybody else hurt by his not wearing a helmet?

People mopping up the mess afterwards?

[Samurai Waki]

Probably a good thing he died, had he not he might've sued the Gubmin't for not enforcing helmet laws.

[Adrian II]

Protesting against helmet laws is so retarded I'm lost for words.

The retards have already taken over. They demand safety for all. And above all. They value safety above beauty, daring, yes even above freedom itself. And of course the state should provide. Always the state. We need more laws, they say. Human nature must be conquered, incarcerated, enslaved, so we need laws upon laws upon laws. We made traffic safety laws, but they aren't water-tight. So let's force people to wear helmets and yellow jackets as emblems of their slavery. Oh dear, but those helmets and yellow jackets give them a false sense of safety and make them behave more recklessly in traffic. Quick, we need new laws! In the end we'll all be forced to stay home 'in our own best interest' and to wear a helmet anyway, just to be on the safe side.

In 2001 the Norwich (UK) city council struck down a row of chestnut trees because falling conkers were deemed a 'danger to public safety'. People might get hurt!

This sort of thing is emblematic for the fools' paradise we live in.

To claim Darwin for the helmet policy is the most retarded thing I have heard in, oh, a couple of weeks. And I'm a journalist, pickings are rich in my line of work. Yes chil'lun, Darwin's principle of evolution is: better safe than sorry!

AII

[HoreTore]

If it was any other law, I would probably agree with your argument, Adrian.


Unfortunately, this is about helmet laws, and I simply cannot comprehend why anyone is capable of working up the rage to protest it. Just wear the damn thing and stop acting like a brat.