Stainless Steel 6.4 Hotseat - Wrath of the Khan 2

**Visor** · 09-26-2011, 13:50

What about Embi?

**Myth** · 09-26-2011, 14:18

Let's not go overboard with that whole "Shah's finest" bit. My "fienst" would be stacks upon stacks of K-nobles with armour upgrades, whilst the AI wasted gold on all sorts of trashy infantry that got me in the negative income in turn 2. Don't count your chikens yet Monkey, I still have a few tricks left to me and you still have oh so much desert to cover.

**phonicsmonkey** · 09-27-2011, 00:15

Originally Posted by Visorslash

What about Embi?

What about it? When I could get there and kill the Shah unopposed it was worthwhile, but why waste troops on a castle in the middle of nowheresville with a whole horde of Cumans bearing down on it? The Shah can wait.

Originally Posted by Myth

My "finest" would be stacks upon stacks of K-nobles with armour upgrades.

Yeah I fought some of those this turn and was disappointed by how weak they were against my arrows. The armour upgrades would help and of course a full stack of them would be a different prospect.

Originally Posted by Myth

Don't count your chickens yet Monkey

Don't worry Myth, I never ever do.

**Visor** · 09-27-2011, 02:25

What about it? When I could get there and kill the Shah unopposed it was worthwhile, but why waste troops on a castle in the middle of nowheresville with a whole horde of Cumans bearing down on it? The Shah can wait.

Aww. I hope I managed to place my other stacks in a good enough position to get you if you retreated.

**phonicsmonkey** · 09-27-2011, 02:49

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Aww. I hope I managed to place my other stacks in a good enough position to get you if you retreated.

Oh yes, do please come after me. I would so like to kill some Cumans.

**Visor** · 09-27-2011, 02:54

Cumans > Mongols.

**Myth** · 09-27-2011, 11:00

I remmeber having an all-cav stack as the center of those 5 sitting there. Or did I move that one? Anyway how did you fight 5 different battles? At least some of the genreals should have had Night Fighter.

So K-nobles fall to Mongol HAs. Tat's a disappointment, then the K-Shah is definitely not as powerful later on as it is early game, since I've seen Mongolian players compain over at the TWC of how invulnerable Sicillo-Norman knights are, and how much worse it gets once France and the HRE come with their heavy stuff.

**phonicsmonkey** · 09-27-2011, 11:49

Originally Posted by Myth

I remmeber having an all-cav stack as the center of those 5 sitting there. Or did I move that one? Anyway how did you fight 5 different battles? At least some of the genreals should have had Night Fighter.

You had five stacks in a vertical line, the middle one was all-cav and the top one was mostly all-cav. The others were mostly infantry.

I couldn't tell whether any of your guys had Night Fighter but I knew I had two guys with that trait that could reach you and several stacks as backup that could also get there. I figured I could probably win an AR battle or two through sheer weight of numbers but I didn't want to lose a lot of men and I didn't want your five depleted stacks scattered to the winds so I wanted to fight most of them on the battle map and wipe them out.

I am allowed one spying mission per turn so I used it to spy on the middle guy and found out that he had Night Fighter. (Unfortunately I was trigger happy on this and did it before I remembered I also get an assassination attempt, so I missed out on that). So I reasoned that if I concentrated on him first and knocked him away then he wouldn't be able to reinforce the rest.

I used a stack of infantry with a Night Fighter general to attack him and was pleased to find that his mates either side couldn't reinforce him. So far so good. So I won that battle in AR (losing 800 men in the process) and sent him scurrying away to the fort. One battle.

Then I used my other Night Fighter general and a whole stack of horse-archers to attack the bottom-most stack, because I knew the guy above didn't have Night Fighter or he would have joined in the first battle. Two battles.

Then the same guy attacked the next stack up and wiped it out in the same way. Three battles.

Then, because by now I had three stacks vs two, I attacked the next guy up and hoped that the top guy didn't have Night Fighter. If he had I would have brought in more stacks to join the battle. He didn't. Four battles.

Then I chickened out of fighting your other mostly-all cav stack full of FMs and AR'd it instead. Five battles.

He went fleeing back and stood right next to the fort that the other guy had fled to. So I attacked him again and wiped the two of them out. Six.

As it goes I probably could have taken on your all-cav stack on the map instead and had even fewer losses, but I was wary of stuffing it up and losing any of my own cavalry. Safer to AR.