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Politicians are just BIG people, more to them, bigger vices, bigger energy and, actually, bigger virtues in many cases. Look at Clegg, you could describe him as the ultimate opertunist or the ultimate patriot - depending on whether being in a Tory Coalition makes or breaks his long-term political career.Originally Posted by InsaneApache
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It's gone from fascinating to like watching a train wreck, Frinstance since Friday; Ms. Brooks arrested. The senior PR man at the Met, arrested. The Police Commissioner resigns. Yates of the Yard follows him 12 hours later. Now we learn that a former NoW reporter who 'ratted' on Coulson is found dead. It's like a bad Agatha Christie novel.
Well perhaps not quite as bad as that but bad nevertheless.
Mrs. Dale thinks it might bring down the government....
http://iaindale.com/posts/could-cameron-be-nextI can't believe I am even writing this, but it is no longer an impossibility to imagine this scandal bringing down the Prime Minister or even the government. OK, some of you reading this may think that last sentence is a deranged ranting, and you may be right. Indeed, I hope you are. But Sir Paul Stephenson launched a thinly veiled attack on David Cameron in his resignation statement and the Prime Minister is already on the ropes about the propriety of his relationship with Andy Coulson.
One can only wish.
Last edited by InsaneApache; 07-18-2011 at 19:22.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
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Do you wish for the return of a labour government, IA?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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No.Do you wish for the return of a labour government, IA?
I don't like 'cast iron' iDave , he's definitely the heir to Blair and we don't need another snakeoil salesman. The Lib Dems are down the bog. Labour is all over the place. I mean, c'mon they have a pair of brain melting eyes and a huge conk for a leader. Like summat from Tod Browning movie.
Elections by September. Watch this space.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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So...... You don't want any of the choices you have? What, exactly, do you want then?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I don't know what you mean. We have more than three political parties in the UK.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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....capable of getting the PM....?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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It would be in no one's interest. Labour have nothing, Lib Dems would get even more battered and replacing the Tory leader will not replace all the money Labour spent.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
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I agree.It would be in no one's interest. Labour have nothing, Lib Dems would get even more battered and replacing the Tory leader will not replace all the money Labour spent.
Though since when has anyone's interest, apart from politicians, been taken into account? Never mind noticed.
Oh if 'cast iron' iDave goes, my moneys on Clarke as an interim.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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One of the strangest thing about this case is that they got the police Counter-Terrorism unit to investigate the phone-hacking issue in the first place. Why that unit? I mean, if you had a choice between investigating terrorism and investigating a newspaper hacking some celebs mobiles, what would you do? I have some sympathy with the police charged with the investigation. Put the phone hacking evidence in an bag and file it away unseen. It's quite understandable.
Apparently the unit was given the case because they were a "safe pair of hands". But still, it is bizarre. It sounds over-politicised - giving the case to the "hot shot" police unit because of the potential publicity angle, despite it having nothing vaguely to do with terrorism.
I also very much dislike Boris Johnson having the hire and fire decision over the top policeman in the land. The man seems to be a crass populist and I don't like politicians being able to fire policemen. If the police are always having to look over their back, it's scarcely surprising they get close to the organisations like News International which until recently seemed to have the politicians dancing to their tune.
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I agree. The top coppers should be elected.I don't like politicians being able to fire policemen.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Yes, indeed. Just like the top heart surgeons should be.
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I expected a much more sophisticated strawman than that.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Sorry, I was not sure you were serious about electing policemen. It just sounds ridiculous to me. I agree that democractically accountable local politicians should be able to have a say in setting priorities and policing policies, but I think it is a very bad blurring of the lines to give them oversight of operational matters. The current case is surely a clear illustration. The personal implications for a top public figure of being arrested - a DSK, a Rebeka Woods, a Berlusconi etc - are massive and I would not want a politician anywhere near the decision-making about whether to make such arrests or even investigations. The scope for smearing your opponents (or protecting your allies) just seems too much and before long we'd be like Russia, where politicians, media, security agencies and worse are mired up together in one foul-smelling soup.
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You want more politicians?
"Put 'em in blue coats, put 'em in red coats, the bastards will run all the same!"
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It sounds like it, doesn't it?
However, an elected 'Shire-Reeve' would at the very least be accountable to the electorate.
Or we could carry on appointing them,
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Excuse me but, "sod that".
I'd rather have them appointed directly by Royal Commission - it's the only way to get it out of mainstream politics.
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That's worked well. hasn't it?
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Royal Comission does not = Borris, I know he's a closer blood rlation of George I than her Maj, but it still isn't the same thing.
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