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[Koga No Goshi]

No, there is easily provable evidence that the KKK is a racist organization. Why can't you come up with similar evidence against the Tea Party? Show me a Tea Party platform that declares America a white nation.



Yikes. That wouldn't be my choice of words.



I do not understand.

Koga just got done exhorting me for challenging his signage=sentiment argument, and immediately ranted about the Right using signs to mischaracterize the Left without proof! Funny stuff.

You are trying to make us prove a claim that the Tea Party in its official public statements or in its express charter has said someting racist. We made no such claim. We said that there is most definitely racism in the ranks of the Tea Party movement. I believe that would be a straw man, but I'll be kind and say you were simply inventing or shifting goalposts.

I don't need to prove anything is in their charter nor do I even need to pull up hard stats to claim there is racism in the Tea Party movement. One sign at one rally is more than enough, but when it's a lot of signs at a lot of rallies, and a lot of rhetoric from a lot of members...

[a completely inoffensive name]

I am not racist, I just don't like this Kenyan making my decisions. Where was he born anyway? I think he was born in Africa, and we shouldn't have an african as our president. Because it is against the constitution of course. You know it is just like Rush Limbaugh says, Barack the magic negro is going to ruin this country.

I mean is the white house going to start looking like this!?!

EDIT: Removed hot linked picture. BG

EDIT: The liberals are trying to paint me as a negro hater now!!!

[PanzerJaeger]

You are trying to make us prove a claim that the Tea Party in its official public statements or in its express charter has said someting racist. We made no such claim. We said that there is most definitely racism in the ranks of the Tea Party movement. I believe that would be a straw man, but I'll be kind and say you were simply inventing or shifting goalposts.

No, I'm not. I was responding specifically to ACIN's claim about the KKK. I don't need a charter, although that would be nice. I need something.. anything of substance.

I don't need to prove anything is in their charter nor do I even need to pull up hard stats to claim there is racism in the Tea Party movement. One sign at one rally is more than enough, but when it's a lot of signs at a lot of rallies, and a lot of rhetoric from a lot of members...

And I don't need any actual proof that the Left is comprised of a bunch of jew hating communists. I also don't need any actual proof that Muslims want to impose Sharia law on the West. I've seen the pictures.

[Koga No Goshi]

No, I'm not. I was responding specifically to ACIN's claim about the KKK. I don't need a charter, although that would be nice. I need something.. anything of substance.



And I don't need any actual proof that the Left is comprised of a bunch of jew hating communists. I also don't need any actual proof that Muslims want to impose Sharia law on the West. I've seen the pictures.

If I saw signs all over my town that someone wanted to impose Sharia law, I would probably be alarmed and want to make sure Sharia law wasn't signed in my town or county or state.

But even if I saw such signs in large numbers in my town or county or state, apparently that would be completely invalid grounds upon which to say "there are people here who want to impose Sharia law", according to your logic.

[PanzerJaeger]

If I saw signs all over my town that someone wanted to impose Sharia law, I would probably be alarmed and want to make sure Sharia law wasn't signed in my town or county or state.

But even if I saw such signs in large numbers in my town or county or state, apparently that would be completely invalid grounds upon which to say "there are people here who want to impose Sharia law", according to your logic.

Large numbers?

You posted six.

There have been hundreds of thousands of Tea Partiers in single events alone.

[Koga No Goshi]

Large numbers?

You posted six.

There have been hundreds of thousands of Tea Partiers in single events alone.

I don't have the time to sift through hundreds or thousands of youtubes, google images of events and post them all here. And it's pretty obvious that any number of links provided to Tea Party people saying inflammatory things will just be dismissed by you anyway, so why would I waste my time?

[PanzerJaeger]

I don't have the time to sift through hundreds or thousands of youtubes, google images of events and post them all here. And it's pretty obvious that any number of links provided to Tea Party people saying inflammatory things will just be dismissed by you anyway, so why would I waste my time?

Don't bother. I'm far more interested in advancing the notion that the the Left in America is comprised of a bunch of communist, anti-american, jew hating scumbags based on some random pictures I found on the internet.

I think I'm beginning to like this lowered burden of proof. I can't wait to use this one next time muslims are discussed!

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