Re: Well done England
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Well done England
See Frags, We're winning!Originally Posted by Rhyfylwyr
At the end of the day you can't stop sex and booze. Life is to short and very few people have that big a stick up their ass.
Last edited by Strike For The South; 07-20-2011 at 15:57.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Well done England
Sir, you may consider yourself siggied.
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Re: Well done England
See Strike, Fragony is right.
There is such a thing as illegally enforced Sharia law in Western countries. I say that whipping serves the convert right for converting to a brutal religion:
An Australian convert to Islam was pinned down and lashed 40 times for drinking alcohol by a group of Muslim men who broke into his home to punish him for breaking sharia law, a court heard Tuesday.
The man, 31, was allegedly restrained and whipped with a cord in his Sydney house Sunday morning by four men who forced their way in after he went out for drinks with friends.
Re: Well done England
No Frags is wrong, Do some use sharia law for their own ends. Yes. However some also beat the shop owner for extortion money.
Simply becuase it is happening (IMO on a much smaller scale than Frags apocolyptic dream where all the clogs are thrown into the North Sea) does not mean there is a fundamental shift in law or how it is apllied. It means there is a crime being commited and the perps should be brought to justice. I can run my own kangroo court just as well as the next guy but it means jack all.
That is the point here, I am surprsied so many people are running for the hills simply becuase a few immigrants decided to play rule of law.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Well done England
Yeah and the main point was that nobody was turning a blind eye to it. Muslims break the law, they are dealt with...
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Well done England
No, this instance the law got involved because it happened to a convert. That is, somebody who speaks the language, trusts the police, understands the system, is not socially vulnerable, does not feel socially obliged to a minority culture.
Sharia rocks the French and Italian legal system, two high profile cases:
France might not be the panacea either. Indeed in one very publicized case, last June, a French judge ruled in favor of a Muslim man who wanted the annulment of his marriage because his wife turned out not to be a virgin. What this decision amounted to was the endorsement of the repudiation concept. This decision triggered a huge outcry from politicians, and various organizations. In November, a French court of appeal overturned the decision. Interestingly, a large majority of French Muslims, about 80 percent are very secular and totally reject any kind of Sharia law being implemented in the homeland of human rights.In Italy, three members of a Brescia-based Maghrebi family (father, mother and eldest son) were accused of beating up and sequestering their daughter/sister Fatima because she wanted to live a "Western" life.
In the first trial, the three were sentenced for sequestration and bad treatment. The court acknowledged that the teenager was "brutally beaten up" for having "dated" a non-Muslim and in general for "living a life not conforming with the culture" of her family. But on appeal, the family was acquitted because the court deemed that the young woman was beaten up for "her own good." The Bologna public prosecutor's office then disputed the acquittal of the three accused parties, but the Italian Supreme Court of Cassation dismissed it and ruled in favor of the charged parties.
Interestingly two Italian political leaders on the opposite side of the political spectrum, Isabella Bertolini, vice president of the MPs of the right-wing party Forza Italia, and Barbara Pollastrini, a post-communist former minister agreed to condemn the Supreme Court decision: "This verdict writes one of the darkest pages of history of the law in our country."
Isabella Bertolini was upset that the court "allied itself with radical Islam" and Barbara Pollastrini is pushing for parliament to pass as soon as possible a law condemning violence against women: "Now more than ever, it is urgent to defend the rights of a large number of immigrant women victims of an intolerable patriarchal culture."
Muslim women were quick to denounce the supreme court's decision. Among them, Souad Sbai, president of the Organization of Moroccan Women in Italy.
Re: Well done England
Your first example is irrelevant and weakens the point your second example makes, Louis.
I should be able to annul my marriage on the grounds that I saw a blue bird flying past my window, if I so desire.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Eighty percent of French Muslims beg to differ.
You are with the twenty percent religious fundamentalists. Fundamentalism which you loathe so much when found in white Christians.
Oh God, this thread is a complete riot. Best all week.
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