where must I invade greece?

**rapanui17** · 07-21-2011, 15:03

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**YD23** · 07-21-2011, 15:26

I would say the black route just for one fact that you get A LOT more reinforcements from Italy in just a few turns rather than relying on one or two stacks going the other way.
I've never invaded the Greeks yet so I don't really have much experience with fighting loads of phalanx/hoplite units. But just think about how once you fight one or two battles you'll badly need more fresh troops from the mainland and you'll need them fast. Therefore, black route I would go for myself. :)

**moonburn** · 07-21-2011, 18:12

patavium segestica dalmatia easy land rout you can continue to suply yourself with fresh troops using the land rout and the easy acess to mines gives you a double advantage of more income for you and less for the hellenes and then you can take their lands while building up the danube wall with frontier river passes forts to avoid the dacians while moving into the epirote mine filled lands

not to mention that any other route means you risk getting your ass kicked at sea by pirates or one of the hellenic balkanic mikra asia fleets wich would mean lOSS of valuable soldiers

**Ca Putt** · 07-21-2011, 18:25

My general hint for invading peninsulas is:
1.when you want to conquer the peninsula - come from the sea
2.when you want to get rid of it's inhabitants - come from the mainland

in this particular case option 2 sounds better tho as YD23 already mentioned, your supply lines are shorter.

Ps when you choose the black route you also have to option to hide your ships in your docks at the end of each turn.

**Morte66** · 07-21-2011, 22:19

I'd come from the south, so that you can maintain a narrow front and play divide and conquer.

Given your borders you ought to be able to make peace with Epeiros + Macedon while you conquer the KH. Then destroy the European Makedonians. That will leave the Epeirotes isolating you from the other Maks, so you can get a peace out of the Maks while you devour Epeiros. Then you have the Maks across the Bosphorous to finish up (or just hold a border at the choke points and leave Asia i.e. the Seleucids for later).

Also Crete is a place you really want a high level MIC plus blacksmith/temples/whatever for the archers. That takes a fair while to build, along with the health/wealth/happiness stuff to make it work, so you might as well get started early.

Build a navy. Clear the seas, and drop freshly supplied armies right on top of their targets.

**NikosMaximilian** · 07-22-2011, 01:16

First, your navy is going to get sunk by those pirates west of Greece (and your army with them). And if you beat them, watch for that Carthaginian Navy south of Taras: They might break the ceasefire just to attack your weaker navy. Strengthen your fleet with a couple of ships more if you want to invade from the sea.

Get Krete, pacify the region, move to Rhodos. Looks like the KH have a pretty big stack there, so you are going to take some losses.

Be sure to have trading rights with Epirote, Makedonians and the Seleukids. Sea trade from those islands is a nice and steady income.

Then if the KH are still a "living" faction and haven't been conquered by the Makedonians, invade them, while at the same time start moving another army out from Northern Italy and conquering Illyria. If you play your cards correctly, you'll be able to envelop the Epirotes from north and south. If you can't, then choose who to fight: The Makedonians from the south or the Epirotes from the north. The KH might not have been destroyed because some city in Spain, Asia Minor or Crimea might have rebelled to them, but that shouldn't be a problem; ask for ceasefire and trading rights and finish them off later in game.