Westeros: A Game of Thrones.

**Ishmael** · 12-06-2011, 23:12

I have a question for people that are more knowledgeable of ASOIAF than me - what territory does Stannis control at this point? Is it just Dragonstone, or does he have some vassals/knights/whatever they're called at Storm's End as well? And JHT, will Stannis' forces be a playable faction or will they just be lumped in with Storm's End?

**Arjos** · 12-06-2011, 23:16

I could be wrong, but Stannis would be at Dragonstone, while Renly at Storm's End...

**johnhughthom** · 12-06-2011, 23:18

Playables:

Lannisters
Starks
Greyjoys
Dragonstone (Stannis)
Martell (Dorne)
Storms End (Renly)
Highgarden

**Ishmael** · 12-06-2011, 23:51

The Vale and Riverlands are unplayable?

**Double A** · 12-07-2011, 01:52

*spoilers*

I would imagine the Riverlands belong to the Starks due to them proclaiming Robb their king.

Vale is run by Lysa, so won't do anything till Littlefinger sets things straight.

Stannis has some crappy islands in his general vicinity, and possibly Florent land, I don't really remember and don't care since House Florent sucks.

**Ishmael** · 12-07-2011, 02:09

Originally Posted by Double A

*spoilers*

I would imagine the Riverlands belong to the Starks due to them proclaiming Robb their king.

Vale is run by Lysa, so won't do anything till Littlefinger sets things straight.

Have you read A Storm of Swords? The Riverlands (particularly the Freys...) are definitely capable of going there own way - I would think of it more as an alliance. That said, I don't think that in the books they are one homogenous faction, so it probably makes sense that they aren't playable. And I agree that it wouldn't be very in-character for Lysa to do anything, although I think the Arryns do have a sizeable military force which would have to be accounted for (particularly if an 'accident' were to happen to Lysa).

On a related note, I've just got A Dance with Dragons and am about to go on holiday, so I have a perfect opportunity to read it! It will be nice to be on top of things when this starts.

**scottishranger** · 12-07-2011, 02:10

Welll its not like the vale has done anything to this point in the stories so thats ok. And the riverlands, well thats disappointing but it can be overcome.

**johnhughthom** · 12-07-2011, 07:07

To be honest, the main reason those factions aren't in is that I didn't think there would be the player base for nine factions. I would like as many people as possible in each faction, for intrigue and betrayal possibilities, and they were the obvious two not to make it.

Playable factions should still consider both active, and attempt to communicate with them via the host. They won't act out of character from the books however.

**Double A** · 12-07-2011, 13:29

Originally Posted by Ishmael

Have you read A Storm of Swords? The Riverlands (particularly the Freys...) are definitely capable of going there own way - I would think of it more as an alliance. That said, I don't think that in the books they are one homogenous faction, so it probably makes sense that they aren't playable. And I agree that it wouldn't be very in-character for Lysa to do anything, although I think the Arryns do have a sizeable military force which would have to be accounted for (particularly if an 'accident' were to happen to Lysa).

On a related note, I've just got A Dance with Dragons and am about to go on holiday, so I have a perfect opportunity to read it! It will be nice to be on top of things when this starts.

If I hadn't, how would I have known about Littlefinger in the Vale?