Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
The fact of the matter is that the post is a problem because it's incredibly metagamey, something that we're trying to avoid slipping into by taking the game in our own strides. Now, I've largely kept quiet in these threads because there should be absolutely no knowledge of Melisandre's existence or anything to link her activities back to Stannis Baratheon, thus I should be keeping to the shadows for the time being, but I find that I have to say something in this instance.

The accusations of sorcery don't annoy me so much, since it's an easy claim to make and it could be falsely interpreted as being the fault of the Starks/Dragonstone's/-insert Lannister enemy here- , but claiming that the nobility are worshipping a 'false god' when there's absolutely no basis for doing so outside of metagamed knowledge? That's a problem.

There are currently no other worshippers of R'hllor in Dragonstone besides Melisandre at this point, so implying that Lady Selyse has converted is utterly unfounded unless one bases their claims on knowledge from the novels. This leads me to wonder; "where are these supposed 'rumours' even coming from?" How is Tywin Lannister hearing about 'false gods' when there's no mentions of such a thing even within Dragonstone itself?

Honestly, every time I see "there's a rumour...", I roll my eyes and sigh heavily because I know it's going to be something metagamey. I signed up to this game because I thought it was an opportunity to engage in a fascinating world and play events entirely differently from the novels, not for information/tactics to be generated from them.
i understand this, but it only becomes a problem if everyone starts to make a problem of it. i think john will judge fairly about what someone can know or cant use because he couldnt know. in itself that single accusation of heresy wont mean much.

tywin does have access to varys and varys knows much... lets just leave it a that?