Westeros: A Game of Thrones.

[Kagemusha]

Oh you mean that. I would think no matter if Joffrey killed the Leader of their house and Warden of The North unlawfully or lawfully. There is little chance they would like to negotiate with him in situation where Joffrey is not the only claimant to the throne. You just dont kill leaders of mighty families wihout consequences.

Edit: Reading your edit does not chance my attitude. The Sympathies of house Stark and their vassals are definitely not with King Joffrey after killing Ned Stark.No matter what kind of explanations are given out in order to explain the act.

[Greyblades]

You make it sound as if we wanted it to happen.

Edit: Reading your edit does not chance my attitude. The Sympathies of house Stark and their vassals are definitely not with King Joffrey after killing Ned Stark.No matter what kind of explanations are given out in order to explain the act.

Funny, I remember one or two who ended up for Joffrey in the books.

[Kagemusha]

Surely im suggesting no such thing. More likely that you now just have to live with it.

[Greyblades]

Surely im suggesting no such thing. More likely that you now just have to live with it.

Well, anyway, I need not thier sympathies just the trial, if he refuses he comes off as not respecting the law of the land.

[Kival]

Well, anyway, I need not thier sympathies just the trial, if he refuses he comes off as not respecting the law of the land.

I could answer that now... but why are we again having this semi-ingame dialogues here? That is really awkward. Is that usual here?

[White_eyes:D]

I could answer that now... but why are we again having this semi-ingame dialogues here? That is really awkward. Is that usual here?

The game thread is more for official announcements for your faction. Here is more for playful criticizing or information/etc.

I am kinda happy about it all though, now I know I never need to move though the Twins.

@Greyblades: I think the North would be surprised if Robb didn't declare war after that. Maybe even accuse him of not doing his duty and being involved with his fathers death.

You somehow keep thinking that the Iron throne is a Absolute Monarchy title or something. Truth is that this a Feudal Monarchy system in which the Vassal provides troops and money to his lord in exchange for protection. Killing a head of house is always cause for Civil war in that kind of government.

[Kival]

The King in Westeros has formidable powers though and a strong centralized law for a feudal monarchy - the problem is just, that Joffrey is not the rightfull king ;-).

[Greyblades]

...I'm sorry, but I generally assumed that accusations against a Prince would generally come under the jurisdiction of the Kings justice.

Anyway I'm giving you a chance to get justice in a fair, honorable and, in comparison, bloodless way. Yet you seem to be refusing without so much as an attempt at negociation.

You call for justice, but when justice beckons for you to come forward and state your claim you hide behind your armies and say no, and when you call for others to seek justice you do not so much as give them even a small chance to defend themselves in a court of law. Heck the one time you do so much as pay lip servce to the Laws of the land you kidnapped the defendant and dragged him infront of a biased judge, one I might add who was so struck with grief she would have killed anything that moved if you so much as implied it had something to do with her husbands death.
Heck I'm not even in character anymore, the starks repeatedly demand justice under the laws under the land, joffrey's supposedly a bastard, tyrion's implied to have tried to kill Brandon etc. Yet they sieze innocents on the roads, attempt coups, hold sham trials and when things dont go thier way they throw a tantrum and send an army. They are not coming off as seeking justice, they come off as seeking blind vengance and having no respect for the Laws and traditions thier former head of house held so dear.