Quote Originally Posted by Believer View Post
I had contact with ATPG in the Midgard game where you were my champion. ATPG revealed early to me that he thought one of the champions would be Jotun, based on his game mechanics knowledge and hosting knowledge. I believed him and for most of the time saw you as the scummiest, you were very close to be voted off on several occasions.
As to why I asked for your IM this game it was for 2 reasons.
What you say regarding Midgard: Possible, since you were town there I'll believe that but after I turned up as town there you should have gotten the hint that this is just how I play.

1. I wanted to pressure you because I think you're behaving oddly.

2. I was bored, ATPG isn't online much at all these days which leaves only Renata I talk to quite frequently. I need more stimulus if I'm to play mafia. Also I enjoy speaking german from time to time.
Ever played Civilization V? When you massed your army near an opponent's border you'd get an inquiry from them, asking if you were about to attack. Most often I hit "No, my soldiers are just passing through the area." The answer to that was: "A likely story."

That's how I feel with this.

It's possible but probably it's a lie because you asked for my IM before I ever said much in the game and you also only learned that I am from Austria when I gave you my messenger handle.

This I feel is almost the same point, so I'll address them together.
GE "won" that day's lynch by about... 13 votes? A joke vote is as good as anything, regardless of the reason I give it's still a vote and pressure is being applied if it's anywhere close to the lead.
This is not the same point and you only addressed point 3! Answer number 2) please!


As Renata pointed out to me privately yesterday; I started my first game on the .Org as a doubtless townie (or genious mafia, but that wasn't the case) and have only grown to be more scummy. I don't know if it's my playstyle that has changed or if it's her perception of my playstyle but to this day I have never been mafia, so you can't really say it's my Modus Operandi.
A likely story.

I do not believe that you are town, and if you are you have put yourself at some serious disadvantage from our conversation yesterday.

1. You told me that I shouldn't trust anyone else unless I trust you. That's saying I shouldn't network at all and if I do I should only do it with you, atleast start with you. Why are you so concerned that I don't talk to other people?

2. You were reluctant to answer questions about what you think of other people.

3. You don't trust Yaropolk, even though he is the most confirmed townie right now.
Now this is probably the worst part of your argument because you are blatantly lieing and twisting my words here. I see no reason for you to do that if you are town so I have to assume that my suspicion of you is correct and you are scum.

1. I have never discouraged you of networking or talking to other people not in the slightest. And I have explicitly told you to not trust me, telling you that your job, as a townie, is to not trust people.

2. I was reluctant because I am suspecting you to be scum.

3. I never specifically stated I don't trust Yaropolk. What I recall is telling you that I try to not trust anyone to the point where I can't suspect them anymore.

Nope. I don't understand why you would even take the risk of telling her, even though she did not reveal that information to me. I'm curious as to why you did it though.
Because at that point I wasn't convinced of you being scum and I tried to figure out if I should even bother accusing you. That's why I sought her counsel.

This is the first real pressure you're taking in this game and you're making a case on the guy who's accusing you, serious OMGUS going on at the same time you're just putting yourself in a deeper hole.
Wrong. There was much more heat on me on D1 when I defended GE. Actually, as scum, why would I ever do that?

Also you haven't even accused me. Two votes on me. One says: "Hello." The other says "You had enough time to think".
Splendid case, where can I learn to make these? No, you are the one attacking the one who accuses you.

Quote Originally Posted by Arjos View Post
You are all mafia for talking privately in the shadows! XD
That's an interesting point. Can you elaborate on that? Wait... I hear you've been lynched? Then I decline