Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[TheLastDays]

Renata is clearly acting like a neutral, in that she is only cares about her own survival, not really willing to risk anything to benefit the town. She's not exactly been anti-town, I certainly grant that, but is just avoiding any spotlight and happy to have any someone die who is not her. That's all normal for a neutral, have to survive a while for their goals, though it is possible this is because she thinks she's really important as a town power-role and wants to live really badly. I'd think that's not quite the best way to go about it here but she might still want to appear like a neutral to throw off the scum anyway then.

So glyphz if there is anyone you ought to question it's the later bandwagoners who followed for no reason. However I just don't think we'll see the same situation tomorrow anyway so it's not the primary thing to worry about tonight. As one exception Believer seems to have forgotten his vote was actually on you, I wouldn't even worry about him tomorrow.

And if there's even the remote possibility that this might be the case, why are you talking about it where the scum can read about it? You are the one who doesn't make a townie effort this game and you are the one who is off.

Both you and Seon are playing weird. Seon was more active than usual in the beginning but his votes were on easy targets and he was basing cases off of shoddy reasoning and once he starts receiving just the slightest bit of suspicion over it he disappears to his usual lurking.

You are not as you usually are, Mr. Earthling. You are better than this usually, annoying, yes, but your arguments are usually better and your reasoning is even worse this game. Plus, you're not making an effort in looking for scum, you buy into weak cases and follow up on them. You reprimend (sp?) Renata on not taking risks for the town effort yet you want to lynch me for doing exactly that.

FoS: Seon
Fos: Earthling

[Earthling]

I want you dead because we'll probably see which one of green man and saber girl disappears. The only thing you have against Seon is that he reasonably voted for you.

[Riedquat]

I want you dead because we'll probably see which one of green man and saber girl disappears. The only thing you have against Seon is that he reasonably voted for you.

yeap, Seon voted for him and wanted eagerly his death too... and like you then voted someone else without any explanation... so I agree with TLD Fossing...

[TheLastDays]

I want you dead because we'll probably see which one of green man and saber girl disappears. The only thing you have against Seon is that he reasonably voted for you.

No, I have against Seon that he voted for me on bad reasoning and that he disappeared after he received the slightest bit of pressure.

Seriously what's up with you Earthling? Usually you'd hunt such behaviour down without mercy. You're definitely not looking good this game.

[Earthling]

Seriously what's up with you Earthling?

This was kinda a crosspost and I'll just mention again because this constant lying deserves other players seeing the callout.

You and I have never played in a mafia game before for any meaningful length of time. Everybody can check this.

It's a complete lie that you could possibly know anything about me despite that you constantly say my posts are somehow different, except that you have scum partners telling you in private this is a good way to stir up trouble. Of course it is about the same as your accusations again Seon or DiY or anyone who you have no connections to and no reason to criticize, you're just a scum.

[Riedquat]

Err... just to note a little thing, I never ever played a mafia game before but still can say some people act scummy or differently than previous games... btw, don't think I'm defending TLD, in fact I think you two are mafia and are barking at each other just to confuse town...

[TheLastDays]

Err... just to note a little thing, I never ever played a mafia game before but still can say some people act scummy or differently than previous games... btw, don't think I'm defending TLD, in fact I think you two are mafia and are barking at each other just to confuse town...

ALright then let's lynch Earthling tomorrow and you can lynch me the next day. Problem solved
Or if that doesn't suit you, do it the other way round, just get rid of Earthling and Seon.

[johnhughthom]

Err... just to note a little thing, I never ever played a mafia game before but still can say some people act scummy or differently than previous games... btw, don't think I'm defending TLD, in fact I think you two are mafia and are barking at each other just to bore the town...

Like you said, you're new so I fixed that for ya. You're welcome.

[Zack]

Like you said, you're new so I fixed that for ya. Your welcome.

Wait, I didn't think anyone was actually reading their bickering.

[TheLastDays]

This was kinda a crosspost and I'll just mention again because this constant lying deserves other players seeing the callout.

You and I have never played in a mafia game before for any meaningful length of time. Everybody can check this.

It's a complete lie that you could possibly know anything about me despite that you constantly say my posts are somehow different, except that you have scum partners telling you in private this is a good way to stir up trouble. Of course it is about the same as your accusations again Seon or DiY or anyone who you have no connections to and no reason to criticize, you're just a scum.

1) We played in two games together and being dead hasn't stopped you from posting in either of these games.
2) My accusations against Seon are completely different in nature. He voted me on bad reasoning, then received pressure and has since disappeared, voting for somebody else.
3) I never accused DiY on anything so I don't even know what you're trying to say there.

[Earthling]

1) We played in two games together and being dead hasn't stopped you from posting in either of these games.
2) My accusations against Seon are completely different in nature. He voted me on bad reasoning, then received pressure and has since disappeared, voting for somebody else.
3) I never accused DiY on anything so I don't even know what you're trying to say there.

This laughably isn't hard to refute. Every point here is wrong even with you purposefully trying to seem vague. Though I grant you that you've given a better scum performance to survive this long since GE died, being active and giving an effort, much better than many recent games and it's nice not to have a team of pure lurker scum.

So again, you think that barely a handful of anonymous posts and being killed Night One means you have some special insight to me in this game? You've said this again and again so don't change your story, you don't think there's anything different about posting while dead and not being able to vote, nor do you even care about the actual game mechanics and story differences here?

If you want to say that you don't like me for reasons different than the OMGUS on the several others, the only thing you've said is my posts are weird compared to before. Which is just a lie, because you have no experience to base that on.

You actually voted for Death is Yonder once before, as already pointed out, and you're just making no sense about Seon. Seon voted for you, true. Nothing else you implied about him that is "bad" is true - he's not been lurking and missing votes, he's not given really bad reasoning, none of it.

At this point though there's enough arguing with scum. You won't be an entirely confirmed scum anytime soon but arguing with a scum who we know is saying things in bad faith does waste people's time.

[TheLastDays]

This laughably isn't hard to refute. Every point here is wrong even with you purposefully trying to seem vague. Though I grant you that you've given a better scum performance to survive this long since GE died, being active and giving an effort, much better than many recent games and it's nice not to have a team of pure lurker scum.

So again, you think that barely a handful of anonymous posts and being killed Night One means you have some special insight to me in this game? You've said this again and again so don't change your story, you don't think there's anything different about posting while dead and not being able to vote, nor do you even care about the actual game mechanics and story differences here?

If you want to say that you don't like me for reasons different than the OMGUS on the several others, the only thing you've said is my posts are weird compared to before. Which is just a lie, because you have no experience to base that on.

You actually voted for Death is Yonder once before, as already pointed out, and you're just making no sense about Seon. Seon voted for you, true. Nothing else you implied about him that is "bad" is true - he's not been lurking and missing votes, he's not given really bad reasoning, none of it.

At this point though there's enough arguing with scum. You won't be an entirely confirmed scum anytime soon but arguing with a scum who we know is saying things in bad faith does waste people's time.

But... come back... Earthling what do I have to do if I can't argue with you?

Well if you're implying that you post reasonable analysis when dead and weak cases when alive then yes, I was mistaken because of a lack of experience with you as an alive player.
I voted DiY on an OMGUS/joke vote, giving no reason whatsoever and thus not accusing him of anything. (unvoting very quickly after that for a serious vote)

Alright, guess we'll talk again tomorrow

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well I'm not that surprised.

So anyways, here was my new strategy for this game, since some of you wouldn't stop pestering me or my inbox.

I was, as I said, a vanilla townie. I also didn't have much time for this game, as I was far, far, far, far too busy kicking some serious on another game on another thread on another forum which required my full attention.

So I had it in mind to do the following:

1) Each round, I'd vote for someone, and insist they die
2) Next round, I'd switch to a new person and insist they die.... but I'd also be willing to lynch the first person
3) If something comes up which looks promising, I override and join the lynch on that person.


Very simple. I intended to stick to the plan but with the strange reaction to the woad vote, I kept voting for him.


Nothing fancy.


Man, you people have a very, very, very bad track record of not lynching me as mafia, and lynching me as town. You honestly should just give up.

Also: Busy elsewhere. Not gonna follow this one.

[TheLastDays]

Well I'm not that surprised.

So anyways, here was my new strategy for this game, since some of you wouldn't stop pestering me or my inbox.

I was, as I said, a vanilla townie. I also didn't have much time for this game, as I was far, far, far, far too busy kicking some serious on another game on another thread on another forum which required my full attention.

So I had it in mind to do the following:

1) Each round, I'd vote for someone, and insist they die
2) Next round, I'd switch to a new person and insist they die.... but I'd also be willing to lynch the first person
3) If something comes up which looks promising, I override and join the lynch on that person.


Very simple. I intended to stick to the plan but with the strange reaction to the woad vote, I kept voting for him.


Nothing fancy.


Man, you people have a very, very, very bad track record of not lynching me as mafia, and lynching me as town. You honestly should just give up.

Also: Busy elsewhere. Not gonna follow this one.

I'm sorry about that. WHat I wanted to do is pressure you, not lynch you. I messed up for two different reasons:

1) Didn't check the deadline.
2) Didn't think anyone would simply go ahead and lynch you over glyphz should there be a tie, not before letting you reply.

[Riedquat]

I'm sorry about that. WHat I wanted to do is pressure you, not lynch you. I messed up for two different reasons:

1) Didn't check the deadline.
2) Didn't think anyone would simply go ahead and lynch you over glyphz should there be a tie, not before letting you reply.

And then you ask why people vote for you... lets make a deal, kill Seon tonight and I promise to not vote for you tomorrow...

[TheLastDays]

And then you ask why people vote for you... lets make a deal, kill Seon tonight and I promise to not vote for you tomorrow...

Damn... already sent in orders for Earthling but I'll see if khaan lets me change them

[Earthling]

Renata, the thing is the mafia killing you would be a reasonably good thing at this point as far as I know. I was fully aware my post might tempt them to try, but that's fine, the mafia killing a neutral who is voting against the town wouldn't really bother me right now. Up to you to convince me or anyone otherwise.

There are enough of us who realize TLD is so transparently scum that it's a terrible move for you to associate with him unless you are really on his team (which your votes could indicate, I'll grant that, sneaky sneaky).

His lies are both pointless and obvious. For example, despite his constant claims to the contrary, not only am I acting townie but he clearly wouldn't even know better himself. Seriously, TLD thinks he knows anything about my role here because of a single previous game that we both were in as regular players- the only game where he ever would have interacted with me- Midgard III, and where I died the first night and never got to vote, only post as a dead townie?

What's happening is that his scum partners, realizing he's a goner sooner or later, have told him to just mindlessly attack townies like me and Seon to confuse people and providing their own reasons. TLD is not honestly coming up with anything he's saying on his own, it's all just lies, PIS about the writeups, or being a mouthpiece for others.

[TheLastDays]

Renata, the thing is the mafia killing you would be a reasonably good thing at this point as far as I know. I was fully aware my post might tempt them to try, but that's fine, the mafia killing a neutral who is voting against the town wouldn't really bother me right now. Up to you to convince me or anyone otherwise.

There are enough of us who realize TLD is so transparently scum that it's a terrible move for you to associate with him unless you are really on his team (which your votes could indicate, I'll grant that, sneaky sneaky).

His lies are both pointless and obvious. For example, despite his constant claims to the contrary, not only am I acting townie but he clearly wouldn't even know better himself. Seriously, TLD thinks he knows anything about my role here because of a single previous game that we both were in as regular players- the only game where he ever would have interacted with me- Midgard III, and where I died the first night and never got to vote, only post as a dead townie?

What's happening is that his scum partners, realizing he's a goner sooner or later, have told him to just mindlessly attack townies like me and Seon to confuse people and providing their own reasons. TLD is not honestly coming up with anything he's saying on his own, it's all just lies, PIS about the writeups, or being a mouthpiece for others.

HAHA you're funny. If you really believe all this I pity you but I think you're a better player than that, scum.

I'm a bit offended that you assume that I would just talk what other tell me as Mafia. I have a rather proactive playstyle. Also we have played together in Mafia X and two games with you leaves me plenty posting material of yours to analyze

Let's put this whole question to a test. You are scum. You think I'm a goner. Alright. If we don't lynch you tomorrow I will self vote and let the town destroy me because if we can't get rid of such obvious Mafia we have a big problem. As soon as I am dead I will even shut up until you have died because as long as we don't lynch you there's no point in trying anything else.

EDIT: I'll throw in another candy. If we can lynch Earthling and the town still wants me lynched, I'll still self vote the next day and let you guys have my blood. One vanilla townie for one Mafia is a good deal.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Well I'm not that surprised.

So anyways, here was my new strategy for this game, since some of you wouldn't stop pestering me or my inbox.

I was, as I said, a vanilla townie. I also didn't have much time for this game, as I was far, far, far, far too busy kicking some serious on another game on another thread on another forum which required my full attention.

So I had it in mind to do the following:

1) Each round, I'd vote for someone, and insist they die
2) Next round, I'd switch to a new person and insist they die.... but I'd also be willing to lynch the first person
3) If something comes up which looks promising, I override and join the lynch on that person.


Very simple. I intended to stick to the plan but with the strange reaction to the woad vote, I kept voting for him.


Nothing fancy.


Man, you people have a very, very, very bad track record of not lynching me as mafia, and lynching me as town. You honestly should just give up.

Also: Busy elsewhere. Not gonna follow this one.

Since you killed me in the last mafia game, I just had to get some payback against you and this is it I guess!

[Earthling]

Honestly we know pizza can do better than vote on nonsense OMGUS cases and lie to other townies, so what we get out of that is he's too busy to give this game an effort, that's not even much of a loss and doubly so if he was a basic townie when we don't have reveals and can't distinguish those from scum for sure.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Since you killed me in the last mafia game, I just had to get some payback against you and this is it I guess!

Yes Warman, I understand why you play the game. I know that you only really sign up to these games to have a chance at killing me over some lame stuff that happened 1-2 years ago that you won't let go.

It's kind of sad that this is how you get your jollies, really. Honestly you should find a new hobby.

The thing is, it doesn't bother me that you do this; the fact that you'd think it bothers me is really amusing.

[Zack]

It's kind of sad that this is how you get your jollies, really. Honestly you should find a new hobby.

[johnhughthom]

Ummm, are you volunteering to be Warman's new hobby?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Yes Warman, I understand why you play the game. I know that you only really sign up to these games to have a chance at killing me over some lame stuff that happened 1-2 years ago that you won't let go.

It's kind of sad that this is how you get your jollies, really. Honestly you should find a new hobby.

The thing is, it doesn't bother me that you do this; the fact that you'd think it bothers me is really amusing.

Actually, it's quite amusing that you brought it up as I haven't thought about that incident in uhm.... yeah, how long? And you say I'm the one with the problem?

And no, I like my time in mafia games and Interactive History. I'll think I'll continue to play in as many as I am physically able to. We going to be new best friends in mafia games now!

Ummm, are you volunteering to be Warman's new hobby?

I don't know. Let me know and I'll chase after y'a!

[Zack]

Warman should automatically be nightkilled Night 1 until he changes his name to something shorter.

[Andres]

Warman should automatically be nightkilled Night 1 until he changes his name to something shorter.

I concur.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually, it's quite amusing that you brought it up as I haven't thought about that incident in uhm.... yeah, how long? And you say I'm the one with the problem?

*Shrug* You've admitted to me in private that you play games to get revenge on me. You just admitted today that you voted for me for explicitly the purposes of revenge. Warman only plays games for revenge. Warman denies that is the case, after admitting that is the case.

Dude, problem is on your end. Problem should actually be plural, but let's stick to the one I'm talking about.

Anyway, don't bother talking to me. I've deleted your private message. Keep it up, and I'll make sure I don't get any more of them.

[Renata]

And if there's even the remote possibility that this might be the case, why are you talking about it where the scum can read about it?

Because he doesn't seem to have realized yet that it is possible to have thoughts in a mafia game that you don't immediately share with everyone in the room.

I don't know that it's worth a FOS, it's so completely typical. Even the vote change to ATPG.