Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

**seireikhaan** · 08-20-2011, 04:47

The young girl yawned, and stretched her arms. "Oh come now, pumpkin, you won't fall asleep before the end, will you?" She snapped back up.

"I can stay up, Granpa!"

"Ah, good. Anyways, when they came back, the emergence of a cult was proclaimed by the revived Andres. But people were suspicious because he'd had many accusations already against him and they weren't sure if he was just trying to save himself. A valiant defense nearly convinced a change of heart, but in the end, Andres was set forth before Angra Mainyu. He stood before the steps leading to the grand throne. A pair of guards assembled to set him into a kneeling position, but he resisted. Finally, he dipped his shoulder, grabbing one guard's arm and flinging him into the next.

'Andres, you will kneel before your King and executioner.'

"You are not the King of this world,' Andres spat. You are a False King as well as a False God.' Enraged by his defiance, Mainyu glowed an even deeper crimson, lightning sparking in random directions. He raised his right hand, and fired a beam of red light at Andres. It hit him straight in his chest, and fired straight through. Andres immediately collapsed to the ground in a smoking heap.

'Well done, my subjects. The defiant shall learn their place, or suffer as he did. Now, back to your work. I am sure there are more still.'

Andres 6 (Beskar, Chaotix, johnhughthom, woad&fangs, warman, Riedquat)
Warman 5 (Zack, classical hero, GH, Yaropolk, Choxorn)
Zack 1 (Andres)

Alive: 20

Autolycus
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Khazaar
Major Robert Dump
Riedquat
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
Yaropolk
Zack

Killed: 12

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)
Reenk Roink (N3)
Andres (N4)
Ironside (N4)
Romanic (N5)
Double A (N5)
Earthling (N6)
Believer (N7)
Secura (N8)

Lynched: 8

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Fluffy (D3)
Askthepizzaguy (D4)
White eyes (D5)
Renata (D6)
Seon (D7)
Andres (D8)

WoK: 1

SoulBlade

**Earthling** · 08-20-2011, 06:13

So who's liking the idea of Andres being a cult bodyguard? That is, he couldn't actually protect other people in general, he just got to die in place of his cult leader/allies. Not a guarantee but worth a look into.

Semi-related note, I believe white_eyes asked me to clarify something I said earlier. It's the writeup with the one "seduction" that is not a kill but something else, one of a couple unknown events in the writeups. People said white_eyes (and you're unknown/scum) was a vote changer so there was a theory that the writeup indicated white_eyes doing something. However, at this point given Ishtar (fertility goddess and more, anyone can look that up) seems to be the cult leader I was pointing out that no, the writeup there seemed to indicate cult activity.

The rest of this is to the reviver. Assuming you're a town reviver. We can't really hold reviving Andres against you because you had no way to know you were reviving a cultist, that sort of thing happens.

What would make things worse is if you give into pressure and get yourself revealed to the mafia/other parties and then killed. So don't blame yourself for anything here, and the town shouldn't either, just be careful things don't get worse (other cultists might know who you are though, that's an obvious headsup)

As often said, with a quick look at the previous Netherworld games and what's reasonable for a town reviver it seems possible that your revive ability is on cooldown recharge. That's ok too. Just make it to where you can revive another townie and things will be fine.

**Death is yonder** · 08-20-2011, 06:53

Hmm? How odd. A glance at the timer when I posted last night told me that voting was up already by the time I got back.

*shrug*

Anyways, Andres' lynch write up indicates that he was probably still a cultist, since IIRC 'khaan said only neutrals would have different write ups.

So who's liking the idea of Andres being a cult bodyguard? That is, he couldn't actually protect other people in general, he just got to die in place of his cult leader/allies. Not a guarantee but worth a look into.

That's quite a plausible idea, because the only other rationale I can think of at the moment for having a cultist being able to protect is that recruiting takes more than one attempt or something so he's there to make sure the recruit doesn't die in the process, wasting effort and time.

Edit: Or maybe we are overthinking it and things like that are just how 'khaan manifests his love to confuse townie networks (I mean, if people think you are a protector, that's like a VIP entry card into the network)

Or perhaps that plus more practical reasons.

**Major Robert Dump** · 08-20-2011, 10:51

I have a special ability the town may be interested in, but saying it out loud will be a death sentence from the cults. PMs please.

**White_eyes:D** · 08-20-2011, 10:56

Originally Posted by Earthling

It's the writeup with the one "seduction" that is not a kill but something else, one of a couple unknown events in the writeups. People said white_eyes (and you're unknown/scum) was a vote changer so there was a theory that the writeup indicated white_eyes doing something.

Clever "people" or well-informed "people" I wonder.

Anyway, I am almost 100% sure town is going to win this...unless Andres comes back from that lynch.

**Beskar** · 08-20-2011, 13:45

It looks like my theory is correct, the reviver is infact an independent / cult leader and by the sounds of it, it isn't Ishtar (since he says he was part of that one, but now with another).

So General, are you willing to confess your sins?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 08-20-2011, 14:30

Interesting.

I actually have something to add to this, but I can't because I am dead.

Ummm just take some guesses. You'll figure it out.

**Beskar** · 08-20-2011, 14:39

The question I wonder, did Andres "choose" to defend GH, or was he forced into it? For example, GH has a special misdirect which then kills Andres, and then GH raises him from the dead to serve as his loyal minion.

The alternative is that Andres was infact a defender originally and a self-confessed Cultist, does this mean GH is the cult leader?

The third one is that Andres randomly defended some one, ie: GH and then died. Because a protector would obviously be useful to a cult leader/Scummy Mc Scum, they revived Andres to serve as a bodyguard for them and GH is just some random person dragged in by association.