Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

You know, Zack, I'd have to say you had a point: I should probably have followed up on johnhughthom. Maybe I would have caught some of these things sooner:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote: Riedquat

Welcome newbie.

Standard Day 1 Vote.

If I were mafia I would do this to make it look like I wasn't paying attention.

Posted from a mobile telephony device

etc.

Said in response to ATPG's first vote on woad&fangs. It's almost like he's trying to be scummy.

Because it's rare that a townie would care enough to check up and post in a game when away from their comp. Supposedly.

Explaining to someone the phone = scum connection, could really be either townie or scummy.

What kind of conference could somebody with grammar that appalling possibly be going to?

Fluff.

Vote: God Emperor

Don't forget to insert some stuff here in an effort to pretend I thought long and hard about the vote before posting.

Bandwagons God Emperor a couple of hours before the end of the day (he was the 11th person on the wagon) and inserts fluff in lampshade form.

Vote: glyphz

I believe I have mentioned my penchant for ties on numerous occasions.

You may notice our previous posts were at the same time. I know you think I'm awesome, I didn't realise you believed me to have psychic powers.

unvote, Vote: fluffy

How can I resist such a flattering assumption of mine.

Woah, maybe you're right Roman. Another crosspost kept the tie...

All of these were in quick succession, about midway through day 3. He voted glyphz to tie it up, then switched to fluffy after crossposting twice. This was when everyone was close, instead of just the two runaway wagons on glyphz and Fluffy. He disappeared for the rest of the day. It's the kind of thing a scum could do to look like they were doing something and being a good townie who votes without actually doing much.

No time to read up, so I'm going to follow Renata. Vote: glyphz

Just randomly joins the glyphz wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Why not?

To see what happens.

And this is one of the first things that really set off my scum alarm. He switched and voted ATPG for no real reason- all of two minutes after Khaan posted a tally showing glyphz was at 7 votes and ATPG at 5. ATPG later ended up being lynched. I find it doubtful he did that for no reason- he saw that he could save glyphz and did exactly that, or he saw that he could lynch ATPG and did exactly that. Doing it to save glyphz makes him scummy because he was voting him earlier- meaning, if he was a townie, he wouldn't attempt to save glyphz for no reason, but if he was mafia, would of course want to save his mafia partner. Doing it to lynch ATPG also makes him scummy, because there was no reason for him to do that as a townie, and mafia often suffer from "Must Lynch ATPG Syndrome"- certainly more than townies do.

Still, this vote switch alone isn't normally something I'd find that scummy. What I find really scummy is that he did it almost immediately after khaan posted a tally, 40 minutes before the end of the day. I highly doubt that was a coincidence.

And now, for a lot of posts he made the following night, his most active period by far:

Like you said, you're new so I fixed that for ya. You're welcome.

Gah, you only quoted me to highlight my poor grammar and make editing the original pointless, didn't you?

Conversation with Zack and Riedquat about grammar. Also fluff.

Hey guys! The way forward for your unresolved sexual tension.

Trying to get Earthling and TLD to shut up. Had you succeeded, I would gladly give your obvious scumitude a pass and just let you win the game, because anyone who can make Earthling stop being Earthling deserves to win the game, and all future games, and also deserves Over 9000 pounds of pizza to be sent to their home every week, as well as Over 9000 Virgins.

But, that feat is impossible, so I must continue with my case, sir.

Ummm, are you volunteering to be Warman's new hobby?

More fluff.

Pretty much my fault for tying the vote to provoke a reaction. Why he was in a position to be tied ( not like that, that's khaan's job), I don't know.

Really? You were paying so little attention you didn't notice the tally that Khaan posted 2 minutes before you switched your vote? I find that hard to believe.

Sigh...

Okay Double A:

If I was mafia trying to appear as town I'd sit on my hands and vote randomly like I usually do.

According to Askthepizzaguy mafia 101 this post makes him scum.

That's about 5 games worth of analysis right there by my usual standards. Zack's been chatty without much substance recently. 8 games.

I do try, I've even managed to bring up all of a persons posts at once, though it was only 3 posts. I'm hoping to graduate to analysing voting patterns sometime in the next decade. After that who knows?

After Andres started getting suspicious of JHT, he asked him about Double A, and this was how john replied. Of note is that he called Double A out on the "If I was mafia..." thing when he did the exact same thing on day 1.

What's wrong with that?

I'm not sure what to think of this.

Vote: White_eyes.

Not sure why I'm following Secura, she sucks at large games.

Like I said the last time I found this to be suspicious, he joined a bandwagon at the end of the day (well, before Khaan extended it 12 hours) for no real reason two days in a row. Now, this time, White Eyes was leading the vote by 7-4 over Earthling, with TLD and Chaotix at 3, and White Eyes was likely a scum himself, but on the other hand, if someone else with a few votes was one of john's teammates and White Eyes wasn't, it couldn't hurt to tack another vote on him, And even if White Eyes was one of john's teammates, it's not like scum never vote teammates after they're already sure they're going to get lynched- as in this case. And regardless, joining a sudden bandwagon at the end of the day is still scummy.

Nope.

His non-response when I accused him.

Hmm, dead Secura. Didn't see that coming...

More fluff.

Vote: Renata

Bandwagoning again? Okay, this time, he was third on the wagon instead of at the end of the round, but "Third on the wagon" is one of the scummiest places to be on the wagon.

Gah, people are capitsing the j when my name is acronymed now...

The vote switch on to pizza when he got killed was just to see how people responded, provoke a reaction, I didn't expect him to be lynched. I can't remember the other one, probably the same reason.

A bit of fluff first when he was again called out on the vote-switching, this time by Ironside, again with that ridiculous excuse.

Vote: Reenk

I don't care if he's dead I want to kill him again.

Yet more fluff.

Unvote, Vote: Diamondeye

Following up Riedquat's FOS.

So, his reasoning for voting Diamondeye is that Riedquat FOS'd him- and voted for Seon.

This vote put the tally at Seon- 4 Diamondeye- 3, for all that matters. It's certainly a scum indicator if Seon was his scum teammate.

Vote: Andres

Bandwagoning again? He was 4th on the wagon and joined it about half-way through the day, before the cult was mentioned. Seems like just a standard bandwagon vote- which is all he's ever done the entire game. Also of note is that he's rates a 6/8 in mafia ESP, ATPG's theory that people the mafia vote for tend to end up dead later. Of the 8 people he's had his vote on at the end of the day, 6 were that day's lynch. The only exceptions were Riedquat on Day 1 (and Day 1 votes hardly count for Mafia ESP, or anything else) and Diamondeye on Day 7. He's also voted for glyphz twice but later changed his vote.

You can disregard that last bit on choxorn, it was my awesome defence that kept him from following up.



Why would anybody follow up after that, totally not scummy at all sir, defence?

Another non-response and fluff post.

TL;DR version: johnhughthom has done nothing all game but bandwagon and make fluff posts, and he's made several really scummy moves- most of all, his vote-switch that ended up lynching ATPG on Day 4.

Vote: johnhughthom