Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

**Beskar** · 09-02-2011, 02:32

Originally Posted by Choxorn

My point being: You, MRD, and a couple of others are cultists who either have almost won or have already won, and can't win unless Chaotix dies first.

Because he is the ooze/flame guy going around night killing? Obviously I would want him dead if he is the mafia?

Stop being so paranoid.

It is a mafia game, I cannot help it.

**Earthling** · 09-02-2011, 02:44

It's impossible for Chaotix to be Hades. If you people are going to listen to pizza, who was a dead nobody at best, and the cult actually claiming he was a dead cultist so not even town, listen to dead townies too.

johnhughthom is an acceptable shot at really getting the cult leader but the problem is he's just not mafia so it could be wasted lynch in that sense, while there's an outside shot with MRD of being another scum under the crunchy cultist exterior.

**Earthling** · 09-02-2011, 02:48

Chaotix, as it's looking like Beskar got recruited by the cult at some recent point, if you told him your roleblock plans he probably shared them with the rest of the cult.

Then Hades, if he's a member of the cult, found that out that way. So hopefully that could be avoided again.

And it really is looking like Hades is with the cult, raw chance at least is favorable, and the claim is the cult recruits don't even get their identities revealed or victory conditions affected, so Hades is probably some assumed nobody recruit who has been riding out the cult crusade to eliminate people the whole time.

I actually believe the cult is not anti-town, in the sense that the only reason they matter is for the cult leader's victory condition and defeating other neutrals somehow, plus Andres and GH and the possibility of just a rival cult group, but then it's especially likely Hades could just pretend to be a cult recruit.

**Beskar** · 09-02-2011, 03:14

Originally Posted by Earthling

Chaotix, as it's looking like Beskar got recruited by the cult at some recent point, if you told him your roleblock plans he probably shared them with the rest of the cult.

Then Hades, if he's a member of the cult, found that out that way. So hopefully that could be avoided again.

Chaotix posted it in thread, but still. Hades (can we even confirm that? as pizza said) could apparently kill through protection as well, why would they be worried about Chaotix possibly having protection?

Even then, I wanted TLD being roleblocked as I thought he was the killer.

**Chaotix** · 09-02-2011, 03:27

I have no idea. Could have been a number of things. Maybe the kill-through-protection was a one-time thing only to keep him from being overpowered. Maybe Earthling was an imperfect doctor to begin with, or became imperfect over time, maybe ALL doctors are imperfect.

Maybe it's a combination of that and the mafia thinking they'd be able to frame me successfully, what with the cult also out for my head during the past three or four lynch votes.

**Beskar** · 09-02-2011, 04:02

I don't think the cult has been trying to lynch you over the last few rounds. Only in that round where I possibly did because I did suspect you then but I changed my vote since it seemed the most sensible option.

However, a lot of the arguments underpinning my vote change well.. have collapsed.

If you end up getting lynched off and you are not the mafia, you have my reassurance that these arguments and me voting for you is purely based on the fact I am suspecting you of being the killer. There is no other "motives" involved in that decision. If I was working for the cult and I thought you was a roleblocker, I would have told them to leave you in the game because a roleblocker would have been very effective against the night killer or sounds like it would be.

and when I typed that, I just realised something...

You said he can kill through protection right? What is to say he cannot kill through a roleblock?

**Chaotix** · 09-02-2011, 05:14

That would be so powerful as to be game breaking, but however unlikely it is possible. That would render my role all but useless then- only good for catching lesser scums or cultists I guess? I think it's unlikely.

What I do think is likely, though, is if I tried to roleblock him and he tried to kill me at the same time, the kill would win out (assuming I was unprotected). So you can assume that when I find the right suspect, if Hades knows about... I will be attacked at the very least.

**Earthling** · 09-02-2011, 05:15

Originally Posted by Beskar

What is to say he cannot kill through a roleblock?

I already said that was easily possible, you just must not have read it.

edit- Chaotix, the thing is it was probably not along. The possible explanation is Hades (and it's true, we have no reason to know for sure the role is Hades but we're killing him that) gained more power upon being the last mafia left

If you are not personally part of the cult you have no reason to vote Chaotix here. There's no real evidence against him.

In fact, if Hades isn't part of the cult at all, he has to kill another cultist tonight no matter what given their numbers, or else he automatically loses. Looking at the last kills in light of that you should reach the right conclusion. It should still be even more obvious soon whether he's been in the cult the whole time and we don't need to help him along. An even worse reason to attempt a lynch of Chaotix now, but someone like MRD or Warman could work.

**Major Robert Dump** · 09-02-2011, 07:24

How did I go from being a not possibly a suspect due to the timing of my replacement (i.e. the killings happened before I arrived) to suddenly being mentioned in every single Earthlink post on this page? It's creeping me out, I think I am being stalked. Robbie was not voting, and since he was a vanilla townie, he was also not participating in night ctions, so depsite a few posts, he was not active in the game. GO AWAY

Yeah, the cult could be mistaken. There could be a killer amongst us, I suppose, but there are also enough of us that we will police ourselves and root out the killer if and when that time comes. My goal, according to my cult PM, is to eliminate the mafia and keep the cult alive. Whether or not the leader has another goal, I do not know, other than the one where she is supposed to breed with a special character I mentioned earlier to which people responded "nice try."

So for now, I am voting the one person my dear leader says is unrecruitable, and that be vote: Chaotix.

**classical_hero** · 09-02-2011, 07:40

Up until now my loyalities have been with the Town, but that changed last night when I got recruited by the cult. So Beskar does have god info, so that makes him less of a target. Since he is not recruitable, it does not look good for him. vote:Chaotix