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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post

    He then went on to say that multiculturalism was the accepted policy in western Europe.

    The question I ask is this.

    Why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

    Who decided to do this?

    What, if any, are the benefits?
    multiculturalism has been the norm far longer than monocultural society, surely people from the UK can see that in there own history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    multiculturalism has been the norm far longer than monocultural society, surely people from the UK can see that in there own history.
    Oh yes!

    The north of England is different to the south. The southwest of England is different than the south-east. As for Scotland, it took me several months to decipher what the locals were saying, the accent was so thick. As for the Welsh.....yaki-da, I love Wales.

    Although one country, there are sometimes vast differences. One of the funniest things I've witnessed was a conversation between a Geordie and a Cornishman.

    However we do have a common bond. We are British.
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    Default Re: why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

    The wall fell, gutmensch needed something new

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    Default Re: why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    The wall fell, gutmensch needed something new

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    I have seen that one before. It's still true though, when the cultural revolution in China turned out to be hardly the best thing that ever happened to the Chinese the DDR had to be the answer to everything, if you pointed out to AdrianII in his disco-period that the DDR isn't perfect he would analy rape you with books and put you on a strict diet of quotations. Alas, the wall fell, enter the multicultural utopia. Now that that lost it's shine as well we must save the world from death by CO2

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    The wall fell, gutmensch needed something new
    Since we're in verbal rape mode, I can add my two cents.

    Migration began to be perceived as a problem for the West only in the 1980's, when globalisation began to uproot our societies and economies and someone convenient had to be blamed..

    Then after the Berlin Wall came down Badmensch was in need of a new enemy and decided on Islam.

    Islamic terrorists saw a chance to capitalize on this fear, with overwhelming success.

    Hence the shitpile we're in today.

    I am not going to document this because nobody else bothers.

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    'Then after the Berlin Wall came down Badmensch was in need of a new enemy and decided on Islam.'

    And when did that happen, thought they were too occupied with blacks

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    Default Re: why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

    Want to sum up some of the successes of "multiculturalism"?
    United States of America
    British Empire
    (others)

    America united people from all over Europe and other places around the world. They brought in all their new ideas creating technological leaps and bringing itself from a back-water slave colony of the British Empire to the most powerful nation in the world.

    However, what the issue is, is peoples understanding of "multiculturalism". The basic tenets is that people are equal, there is no inferior "races" which was present in the ideology first half of the 20th century. It is bringing equality between people, whether they are asian, black, homosexual, female, male, white, hetereosexual, asexual, disabled, and every other tagline.

    If anything, the term "multiculturalism" sends out the entirely wrong message, it implies there is more than one culture. What in reality should be happening is an "Open-Culture", where we are open.

    The biggest enemy of this are those who want to discriminate, oppress, force their extreme "conservative" ideals down peoples throats, whether they are Al-quaeda (New York), Fascists (Oslo), Nationalists (Madrid) and Nutjobs (American Republican Media).
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    Default Re: why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    Since we're in verbal rape mode, I can add my two cents.

    Migration began to be perceived as a problem for the West only in the 1980's, when globalisation began to uproot our societies and economies and someone convenient had to be blamed..

    Then after the Berlin Wall came down Badmensch was in need of a new enemy and decided on Islam.

    Islamic terrorists saw a chance to capitalize on this fear, with overwhelming success.

    Hence the shitpile we're in today.

    I am not going to document this because nobody else bothers.

    AII
    Well in the U.S. the enemy was replaced with, ourselves. I didn't document the conversation I had with a federal law enforcement official but the U.S. cared less about Al-Qaeda then they did about Al-Elf. This inward focus existed during the Clinton administration and exists within Democratic circles today. Probably because it fits under law enforcement and easier to quantify.

    The U.S. has never been about multiculturalism (in less you include variations of Western culture). It's that we had so much space we could fill after we got rid of the natives and the bison. We also have the dominant, or "American" culture. Despite this, we're still culturally divided (e.g. Southern, black (urban and rural), New England, West Coast, and etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Despite this, we're still culturally divided (e.g. Southern, black (urban and rural), New England, West Coast, and etc).
    By that token you'll be hard pressed to find a state larger than Monaco that *wasn't* "culturally divided" - regional differences still doing quite well in spite of the best efforts of the 1800s nationalist unifiers.

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    Oh yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    multiculturalism has been the norm far longer than monocultural society, surely people from the UK can see that in there own history.
    No, I honestly can't. Certainly not so long as the "UK" has been an entity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfylwyr View Post
    No, I honestly can't. Certainly not so long as the "UK" has been an entity.
    You do realise that that is a statement tripping into the zone of an oxymoron. The UK is by definition a multicultural society.

    The UK = United Kingdom = Many different kingdoms = different cultures (even within the same kingdom). Saxons, Normans, Celts etc
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