Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
If everyone crams onto an island, it is pretty evident that very quickly, this island will not be able to support the population on it. In my example of Britain, Britain cannot support it's population without very heavy reliance on imports, it is simply too crowded.

Thus, waton immigration on the isles is a pretty moronic policy as Britain is no where near self-sufficient and this is decreasing rapidly with the decline of agriculture and industry. While a global trade policy you do not have to be able to be fully sufficient, however, you need your exports to be greater than your imports for viable economic growth and sustainability, which Germany is a very good example of.
the problem britain has isn't the absolute level of immigration, we can easily choose to import more.

no, the real problem with immigration in britain is:
> the relative level of change, which cannot easily be accommodated by the population centres where immigrants tend to accumulate, where people tend to be poorer and thus more reliant on a stable and recognisable community.

this 'dissatisfaction' is further catalysed by the following:
> the degree of difference of the immigrant culture, and its perceived compatibility
> an orthodoxy that discourages the native culture from expecting the immigrant culture to adapt to their sensitivities.

to turn it into an argument about demographic sustainability is rather irrelevant, the man on the street doesn't give a damn about that.