why did the west commit to multiculturalism?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The sociological average of immigrant communities entering a host countries that applies across all groups is:

1) First generation NEVER loses their original tongue as a primary first language, and it is most usually the only language they speak in the home and with fellow community members.

2) Second generation is usually bilingual and often acts as translators for the first generation or grandparents or relatives.

3) Third generation has typically lost the original language and their strongest ties to the original culture of origin is food.

Except that the current "Second Generation" Muslims in Britain and elsewhere are less integrated and appreciative of their host country than their parents. They are reactionary, in many cases very deeply, in a few murderously.

[Koga No Goshi]

Except that the current "Second Generation" Muslims in Britain and elsewhere are less integrated and appreciative of their host country than their parents. They are reactionary, in many cases very deeply, in a few murderously.

I think to greater or lesser degrees you could make virtually the same claim about any sizable ethnic enclave or group in a new host country, especially if looking over the worst elements or examples. People in the U.S. said exactly the same thing about ties to the mother country and the U.S. being ruled from Rome when the big recent groups were the Irish and Italians and both groups were rife with gang and mafia activity. Fast forward a few generations and the idea that they were regressive people who'd never blend into the mainstream is kinda silly.

But in specific you say they're less integrated. Are you seriously saying they speak less English than their parents' generation? Are less connected with English or British culture, despite growing up in it and going to British schools? That seems rather far fetched.

[rory_20_uk]

I think the reason is the first migrants were pure economic migrants who want the jobs, security but not the country as such.

America, probably because of its heritage, is very big on drumming into everyone they are Americans. Salute the flag, morning statement at school and also when becoming a citizen. Here there is none of that. America us undoubtedly changing with influxes of new people, but these are adding to the core rather than choosing enclaves.

[Koga No Goshi]

I think the reason is the first migrants were pure economic migrants who want the jobs, security but not the country as such.

America, probably because of its heritage, is very big on drumming into everyone they are Americans. Salute the flag, morning statement at school and also when becoming a citizen. Here there is none of that. America us undoubtedly changing with influxes of new people, but these are adding to the core rather than choosing enclaves.

With regards to the first generation that is quite correct I believe and one of the great myths in the U.S. is that people believe the "old immigrants", the "good ones" came here with awe on their faces wanting so much to be Americans. They came here as economic immigrants by a huge margin, just like today.