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    Clan Takiyama Senior Member CBR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    This guy was not a madman but an extremist, can you deny it opened up some gaps, can't discuss about him without discussing what he said.
    I have not read his manifest but have seen a few quotes from it: he might have shared some ideas with the rightwing, but he also seem to live in his own world and have some pretty weird ideas not many on the rightwing would agree with IMO.

    Do people consider Lee Harvey Oswald a leftwing/communist terrorist or assassin or simply a deranged person? Should anyone who dislikes capitalism feel guilty about Rote Armee Fraktion?

    I don't know what you mean by "rightwing" but unless you can find a group that advocate for what ABB is rambling about as well as his actions, then he is still just one single madman. Fascists and Nazis come closest I guess?

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    I come pretty close really. If you would be really mean you would remind me of this https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...l-for-violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I come pretty close really. If you would be really mean you would remind me of this https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...l-for-violence
    Maybe the Fragony on Org is just the official and nice side of Fragony, while the inner ABB in you is coming out on the "Tall blond Dutch who hates m00slims" forum, that I don't know of course.

    But based on what you are writing here then arming yourself and thinking in terms of vigilantism might be considered extreme but IMO is still a far cry from ABB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    Maybe the Fragony on Org is just the official and nice side of Fragony, while the inner ABB in you is coming out on the "Tall blond Dutch who hates m00slims" forum, that I don't know of course.

    But based on what you are writing here then arming yourself and thinking in terms of vigilantism might be considered extreme but IMO is still a far cry from ABB.
    Of course. If you want to dive into it, my e-mail is my actual name

    Just trying to say that there's a reason there is a populist right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Just trying to say that there's a reason there is a populist right.
    Yes indeed and what I'm trying to say is that the populist right should not feel guilty about the actions of ABB. Unless they advocate actual violence and fascism.

    Nor is ABB a natural result of multiculturalism as some on the rightwing is declaring.

    I might as well say it was a natural result of having the internets because ABB could communicate and obtain info in ways that was practically impossible a few decades ago. Or why not say it is the natural result of the industrialisation because without fertilizer and automatic weapons ABB could not have done much damage.

    That of course does not mean we shouldn't try to figure out what went wrong up in his head.

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    I don't feel guilty, hoping something good will come out of this

    'Nor is ABB a natural result of multiculturalism as some on the rightwing is declaring.'

    Not such a wild claim, of course it is. And of the completely politically autistic EU as well

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