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    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hey-saved.html

    While you may think the ethical dilemma is whether or not rescuers should sue the knuckleheads they rescued, which is a valid point of debate, a deep ethical dilemma for me is this:

    I see a Hummer (AKA Bane of The US Roadways) on fire with the license plate 5POILED. Do I rescue the occupants or try to make it home in time for Tosh.0? I mean, driving a Hummer makes you a pretty rotten human being to begin with, but by highlighting the fact that you are a douche with a license plate that says "I am a douche", you are making this a very difficult decision for me.

    For future reference, people in Hummers who get vanity plates may try to counter-act their douchiness with a licesne plate that says something like "Handicapped" or "NotD0uch3" to improve their chances of survival in the event they need rescue.
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    The H1 was pretty sweet. It all went downhill after that... Anything GM touches...

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    You save the person. The problem is that the state should cover the injuries of the rescuers. Then it should be up to the state to decide how and if it will recover the costs.

    Why?:

    Because the state should be encouraging good behaviour.
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    It seems a lot like no right no wrong situation.
    The girl who tried to kill herself was mentally ill back then, no doubt. The men who saved her were heroes. That they were injured while saving her is sad, the girl owes them her life, so if it is within her means, and if they are truly permanently injured then she must help them. But filing a lawsuit creates bitterness in a case which started with heroism and humanity. That is the saddest part.

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    I mean, driving a Hummer makes you a pretty rotten human being to begin with
    Why's that? I was under the impression that macho SUVs that guzzled fuel were quite popular in USA...
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    ....hence why we let the government get big enough to work out stuff like this.
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    What do you army guys put on yer Hummer's license plates ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hey-saved.html

    While you may think the ethical dilemma is whether or not rescuers should sue the knuckleheads they rescued, which is a valid point of debate, a deep ethical dilemma for me is this:

    I see a Hummer (AKA Bane of The US Roadways) on fire with the license plate 5POILED. Do I rescue the occupants or try to make it home in time for Tosh.0? I mean, driving a Hummer makes you a pretty rotten human being to begin with, but by highlighting the fact that you are a douche with a license plate that says "I am a douche", you are making this a very difficult decision for me.

    For future reference, people in Hummers who get vanity plates may try to counter-act their douchiness with a licesne plate that says something like "Handicapped" or "NotD0uch3" to improve their chances of survival in the event they need rescue.
    You will be happy to know that the rescuers are on solid legal ground with this suit. The 'Rescue Doctrine' is a solidly established aspect of tort law. It says, basically, that if someone negligently causes an accident, they are liable for any injuries suffered by a person rescuing the victim of the accident. It applies to incidents where third parties cause the accident, as well as to incidents when the victim was responsible for the accident. All the rescuers need to do is prove that the victim was negligent in his/her behavior, and they will win damages.


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    But she wasn't negligent per se, what she did was totally intentional and thoroughly thought-out. They should have minded their own business. Just because she was calling for help doesn't mean she really meant it, it was simple death panic and pain as her fake breasts melted.

    I'm just kidding btw. I just hate Hummers is all.

    FYI no one who drives a Hummer has ever tipped anyone ever. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    BTW no one who drives a Hummer has ever tipped anyone ever. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    You will be happy to know that the rescuers are on solid legal ground with this suit. The 'Rescue Doctrine' is a solidly established aspect of tort law. It says, basically, that if someone negligently causes an accident, they are liable for any injuries suffered by a person rescuing the victim of the accident.
    Excuse my Wikidness, but doesn't this doctrine say something different:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    In the USA, the rescue doctrine of the law of torts holds that if a tortfeasor creates a circumstance that places the tort victim in danger, the tortfeasor is liable not only for the harm caused to the victim, but also the harm caused to any person injured in an effort to rescue that victim.

    [..]

    Essentially, in its pure form the Rescue Doctrine boils down to 4 main elements - all of which must be met in order to bring it to bear for the person asserting its privilege.

    There must be peril or the appearance of peril to a third party, caused by the defendant.
    That peril or appearance of peril must be imminent
    A reasonable person would recognize the peril or appearance of peril and the plaintiff must also have actually recognized it.
    The plaintiff must have exercised reasonable care in effecting the rescue.
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    I think the potential of there being a baby in the back satisfies the third party peril requirement. The guys specifically say that they thought there was a kid in the back, and one of them reached into the flames to feel around for a kid while the other guy was performing CPR on the drivers fake breasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    I think the potential of there being a baby in the back satisfies the third party peril requirement. The guys specifically say that they thought there was a kid in the back, and one of them reached into the flames to feel around for a kid while the other guy was performing CPR on the drivers fake breasts.
    It's nice to know we have so much legal expertise on board.

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    What you really want, if you want an offroader/SUV, is this:

    http://www.wimp.com/armoredvehicle/



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