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Magneto 05:56 08-21-2011
Originally Posted by Skull:
Thanks.:D
Can you show some screens of my Bosporians?:P
Yes. In half an hour.
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Valkar 10:10 08-21-2011
Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time. I will edit some, and post them.

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Magneto 10:20 08-21-2011
Originally Posted by Valkar:
Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time. I will edit some, and post them.
Which ones? The last two ones?
Edit: Already answered.

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Magneto 11:50 08-21-2011
A thought just crossed my mind: What about the ships?

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ahowl11 14:19 08-21-2011
too purple skull.. make the warband a regular warband, similar to the skirmisher warband behind it:) and talk to Caesar15, apparently he made ship skins

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Skull 15:11 08-21-2011
Originally Posted by Valkar:
Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time.


Originally Posted by ahowl11:
too purple skull.. make the warband a regular warband, similar to the skirmisher warband behind it

Okay...sorry for trying to make them look greek a bit,not standard unhistorical half naked warband........

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ahowl11 19:04 08-21-2011
alpha is essentially vanilla.. not alot of historical input.. beta will be better

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Skull 20:07 08-21-2011
Originally Posted by ahowl11:
alpha is essentially vanilla.. not alot of historical input.. beta will be better
But in beta we will have vannila type skins,right?

POST 90,WE ARE NEARING 100 :D

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Magneto 20:57 08-21-2011
Originally Posted by Skull:
POST 90,WE ARE NEARING 100 :D
You´re slow, I am at 110 and joined a great deal later.

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Magneto 08:52 08-22-2011
Ok. I made a few Unit cards:
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These are at the moment all Illyrian Units (Well, apart from the ships, of course). They all got new textures. I´m at the moment trying to figure out how I can edit the mercenary unit card into the new one, as the game just doesn´t show mine up.

Also, I am not sure with the Scutarii, if they´ll implented now or not. A definitive YES/no Statement would help alot.
I also know that these aren´t the best UI-Cards you have ever seen, but I think they aren´t the worst also, and they at least help till we got "real" UI-Cards

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Skull 10:52 08-22-2011
Put the scuttari in.
Also,increase the charge of "barbarian" illyrian units,but decrease ther melle effectivnes.

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Magneto 11:04 08-22-2011
Originally Posted by Skull:
Put the scuttari in.
Also,increase the charge of "barbarian" illyrian units,but decrease ther melle effectivnes.
Well, I´m at the moment not gonna change anything in balancing. I want to change a few things myself, but I think we should concentrate on making the textures now.

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Macedon1an 12:38 08-22-2011
I made Nabatean desert infantry, eastern infantry and hillmen textures :
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Valkar 13:17 08-22-2011
They look good, but you should change the color into a more historical dusty green color.

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Macedon1an 13:48 08-22-2011
Yea I know, but I made them look more vanilla for alpha.

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ahowl11 14:24 08-22-2011
ya once beta comes we will adjust all the colors to look more dusty

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Magneto 14:30 08-22-2011
Originally Posted by Macedon1an:
I made Nabatean desert infantry, eastern infantry and hillmen textures :
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Sorry for late response, couldn´t load the org. Implenting now.

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Skull 23:10 08-22-2011
I posted the Nabatean missile units at TWC.:D

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Skull 14:25 08-23-2011
I will make Phalanks Pikemen AND Chozen Swordz for Bosporains :D

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Magneto 08:06 09-06-2011
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This is the new general. I am not completely happy with it, but I think it is ok. Note that I play in the highest Resolution.

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Magneto 13:14 09-06-2011
I completed the Bosporans. The Nabateans are complete exept two units.
90% of the Texturing is done. Many UI´s are still missing, however. I will concentrate on the textures, and upload the files tomorrow or the day after. Then we could test it while we complete the UI cards

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ahowl11 15:15 09-23-2011
Time to get this thread going again... Everyone post your work with units here.. I will make a list of units to create sometime today.. that way we can be organized.. but no more posting units on TWC.. they will be here so we are organized

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Macedon1an 17:35 09-23-2011
I made the Bosphoran Archer Warband and Warband :

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Magneto 17:49 09-23-2011
Originally Posted by Macedon1an:
I made the Bosphoran Archer Warband and Warband :

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Maybe you could use the vanilla-textures and simple recolour them, instead of making a complete new one?

It looks rather ... well, unrealistic and clearly painted, sorry.

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ahowl11 18:13 09-23-2011
Perfect Macedon1an!!!!!!!! Except the warbands shield.. could you make it vanilla looking? look at dacias shields.. notice how parts are dark brown and the other parts are a faded brown?? do the same with the purple on this.. also Magneto/Primo is that one of your jokes??? And I will have the lis up and ready in a few hours!

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Magneto 08:00 09-24-2011
Originally Posted by ahowl11:
Perfect Macedon1an!!!!!!!! Except the warbands shield.. could you make it vanilla looking? look at dacias shields.. notice how parts are dark brown and the other parts are a faded brown?? do the same with the purple on this.. also Magneto/Primo is that one of your jokes??? And I will have the lis up and ready in a few hours!
Nope. If you look closely you can see exactly where he painted what. If it doesn´t bother you, I´m ok with it, but ingame it doesn´t look good. :(

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Macedon1an 11:13 09-24-2011
Here are the re-skinned Warband and Militia Hoplites :

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For beta I think we should use different shield designs for all units...

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ahowl11 18:05 09-24-2011
Nice! Both units look good.. will be posting a list soon... and ya for beta we can make each faction have different symbols on the shield.. Primo, I really dont see it.. it looks good to me

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ahowl11 18:22 09-24-2011
Roman Republic CAESAR15
Get rid of following units: Peasants, Praetorian Cohort, Urban Cohort, Peltasts, Praetorian Cavalry, Repeating Ballistas
Slingers need better UI (like CA makes their unit cards)

Nabataean Kingdom PRIMO/MAGNETO
First off we need all of them to be Brutii green.. some are light, some are dark, and some have their old faction color's skins still.. we need them to all have the same colors..

Here are the particulars:
General's Body guard: Horses are fine, men have parthian colors.. needs to be brutii.. general didnt have a sword just his fist.. i think thats just an error with the game though

Desert Infantry: Still have Numidian Colors.. main part of uniform needs to be green with the other parts white
Slingers: Sleeves and hoody are fine but there is a black outline at the bottom of the tunic.. needs to be white
Bedouin Warriors, Bedouin Archers, and Arab Cavalry: Change mercenary greens to brutii green and white

Also these following units need UI's:

Eastern Infantry
Desert Infantry
Slingers
Peltasts


also i believe macedon1an made arab swordsmen? do we have a file for that? i believe that the nabataeans will be a fun and difficult faction to play as.. they need 1 or 2 heavier units to balance them out better but historical accuracy will be an issue.. i think we can make a Royal Cavalry and Infantry Unit

Illyrians CAESAR15
Get Rid of Barbarian Peasants
Warband, Spear Warband, Swordsmen, Barbarian Cavalry: Need Dacian Skins.. what i mean is brown hair like the dacians not blonde hair
Militia Hoplites: Need vanilla shield, blue background with white outline
All units need to be Scipii colors.. that means Scipii blue and white.. some units are blue and black.. make sure units that have striped pants (warbands) have scipii blue and white stripes
Slingers need greek accent not carthaginian accent
UI's need to reflect units.. archer warband ui has red hair while actual unit has brown hair..
Barbarian Cavalry UI needs to look like other UI's (Like CA makes their unit cards)
Cilician Pirates needs to be Illyrian Pirates, Illyrian Mercenaries needs to be Illyrian Peltasts.. need UI's reflecting Scipii Colors, the Illyrian Peltasts need Scipii colors not greek colors

Bosporan Kingdom MACEDON1AN
Get Rid Of
Chosen Swordsmen
Chosen Archer Warband
Barbarian Noble Cavalry
Ballistas

Add
Scythian Horse Archers


Then, Archer Warband, and Warband need to look like vanilla style units.. just take the Dacian textures and give them Senate colors
Same thing goes for Axemen and Barbarian Cavalry.. get rid of the shirts
Militia Hoplites need the colors on their shiled reversed.. purple background with white design/outlines

Most of the units are purple and black.. the senates colors are purple and white
These Units Need to be Purple and White instead of Purple and Black
Early Generals Bodyguard
Late Generals Bodyguard
Peltasts
Archers
Skirmisher Warband
Heavy Peltasts
Greek Cavalry
Militia Cavalry

These units need to be fixed as well
Levy Pikemen (purple sleeves/tunic, white outline; purple shields)
Phalanx Pikemen (purple tunic, white outline; purple shields with white design/outline)

Remember Senates colors are purple and white not purple and black..
ALL UNITS NEED UI'S!!!!
Last but not least the general and captain textures need to be reskinned to purple and white.. right now they are macedonian skins

Macedon MACEDON1AN
Fix Heavy Peltasts Shield so it's vanilla looking.. use the Greeks Skin as an example and you should be able to tell the difference..
Heavy Peltasts Need UI (Like CA makes them)

Ptolemaic Empire PRIMO/MAGNETO
Get Rid Of Peasants
Re-Add Skirmishers
Silver Shield Pikemen Needs to be Gold Shield Pikemen,.. needs to be reskinned and given Egyptian Colors and a UI
Slingers, Peltasts, Militia Cavalry, and Heavy Peltasts need to look Greek (white skin, not dark) peltasts and militia cavalry need original vanilla shield
Light Lancers: uniform is too yellowish.. needs to be more Gold
Archers, Companion Cavalry: Have Macedonian Skin, needs to be Egyptian
Scythed Chariots need Egyptian Skin not Seleucid

Need UI:
Gold Shield Pikemen
Slingers
Peltasts
Heavy Peltasts
Archers
Greek Cavalry
Light Lancers
Scythed Chariots
Militia Cavalry

Seleucid Empire CAESAR15
Light Lancers Outline is black, needs to be white
Heavy Peltasts and Light Lancers need UI's

Atropatene MACEDON1AN
Peltasts need to look Parthian, they have Armenian Skins
Peltasts and Persian Archers need UI's

Gauls PRIMO/MAGNETO
British Light and Heavy Chariots need to be Gaulish Light and Heavy Chariots..
Both Chariot Units Need Gaul's Symbol on the back of chariot not Britoons symbol
Light Chariots have German Skin, needs to be Gaulish Skin
Gaulish Chariots and Gaulish Light Chariots need UI's

Britons CAESAR15
Late Barbarian Warlord needs Briton Colors
Early Barbarian Warlord and Barbarian Noble Cavalry are missing the textures..
Barbarian Cavalry, Barbarian Noble Cavalry, and Late Barbarian Warlord need new UI's (like CA made them)

Armenia MACEDON1AN
Slingers need Armenian Skin and need UI

Dacians PRIMO/MAGNETO
Add Skirmisher Warband, should be in the files! Might need UI

Greek Cities CAESAR15
Get rid of Companion Cavalry, add slingers with a UI

Scythians PRIMO
Add skirmisher warband and reskin warband with UI's.. Skirmisher Warband should be in files, and i thought i sent you the skin for Warband? Make sure these units have the distinct Scythian looking pants

Thrace MACEDON1AN
Reskin so they have Thracian Colors and brown hair (like Dacians):
Warband
Swordsmen
Spear Warband
Archer Warband
Barbarian Cavalry

Get rid of following units
Chosen Swordsmen
Chosen Archer Warband
Barbarian Noble Cavalry

Slingers should be Greek Skin with Thracian Colors not Barbarian Skin

UI's for each unit

SO HERE IS ALL OF THE WORK TO BE DONE, POST EVERY LITTLE BIT OF WORK SO WE CAN REVIEW. WHEN EACH UNIT IS COMPLETED I WILL PUT "DONE" IN RED NEXT TO IT. LETS GET TO WORK!

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Caesar15 19:12 09-24-2011
Done with roman roster, going to take a 20 minute break ebfore starting with ilryians, a lot fo work with them.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=10340518#post10340518


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