Three Wolf Moon [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know what ATPG, you've half convinced me. That is, I'll still vote for you to be lynched, but I'll also vote to give you the shirt.

unvote, vote: ATPG

Good, you're halfway to a wise decision.

If you don't like me or trust me, ask Seamus Fermanagh or Believer or.... most folks, really, to have the shirt and to scan Memnon tonight.

We can even totally wimp out and go No Lynch.

But seriously. I have the cojones to just blind lynch Johhog for his treachery. I don't need no freaking scan results. Join me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now, let's look at the activity chart and see how screwed town is regardless of what I say.

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TOWNIES

Askthepizzaguy- sane
Montmorency- sane
Tratorix- sane
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B_Ray- voting for me, but is likely still sane

LESS ACTIVE TOWNIES

Believer- less active
bestrfcplayer- less active
Seamus Fermanagh- less active
Yaropolk- less active
Warman- less active

DUBIOUS

Ishmael- voting for me, even though he wants to give me the shirt. What the fig tree?

LIKELY SCUMBAGS

Johhog -- Scanned Town (N1), voting for me
Memnon
Populus Romanus -- Scanned Town (N2)
johnhughthom

And how much time is remaining?

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Deadline:

Well, I'm boned today. That's kewl. But, you still have Tratorix and Montmorency and a smattering of less active folks who can take heed of what I say and save the game.

You lynch me and allow Populus to have the shirt, you won't be able to trust those results. You need someone completely objective and impartial to scan Memnon.

That's the only way you can trust Memnon's scans, and by extension, Johhog's scans.

Ignore me at your peril, have a nice round.

[johnhughthom]

No death reveals, hadn't noticed that.

Vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

No death reveals, hadn't noticed that.

Vote: ATPG

Mmmm a little better.

But, this doesn't matter much if I'm lynched. Also, you were the first to vote Memnon the shirt, so I have my peepers on you.

That's only 50/50 really, it's not as bad as what Johhog and Memnon have been doing. There could be a bunch of scumbags and you may have simply gotten unlucky. Or, this could have been your plan. I'm not sure which is the case.

If you manage to stop this nonsense and we get to scan Memnon by someone I trust, then I'll drop you as a suspect for your townie moves here.

For that to happen I need to not be lynched today.

Let me live and have me personally perform the scan, or, a group of three people that are not me, and not Johhog, Memnon, or Populus Romanus get to choose who wears the shirt today to scan Memnon tonight.

You have to scan Memnon and it has to be reliable. Or, we can do things the Askthepizzaguy way, which is lynch based on scummy behavior. Which means lynch Johhog, then Memnon, and then me if you think this is all a trap.

[johnhughthom]

I like to think I have a history of doing something to welcome newbies to games which is all my voting the shirt to Memnon was.

The shirt, which by the way, the rules don't state explicitly what happens when the scums get the shirt.

The obvious answer to this is false results, surely framing Askthepizzaguy on night one would be high on the list of cool things to do for mafia? Didn't happen.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like to think I have a history of doing something to welcome newbies to games which is all my voting the shirt to Memnon was.

I'd really like to believe you, I need all the allies I can get right now.

The obvious answer to this is false results, surely framing Askthepizzaguy on night one would be high on the list of cool things to do for mafia? Didn't happen.

Not as valuable as the "clearing" of Johhog.

It's a nice idea but here's the big flaw in such a plan:

There aren't more than say, 4 mafia.

Even if you do the scan a player, give them the shirt deal, what happens after about 4 rounds? A townie gets the shirt.

Then what? They scan Memnon or Johhog and that plan unravels completely.

It's super high risk. It won't work, I just exposed the big weakness. Thing is, the scums are going to be a larger team to combat the shirt, and they only need about 4 or 5 mislynches to win the game or have the townies so confused they cannot solve it.

It's worth it. The game is won in the first few rounds really, assuming the townies don't get their act together and doubt the scans quickly.

But townies being townies, they rely on detectives to save the game for them. As such, they deserve to get pwned by the shirt.

But I don't trust these claims, and so therefore, I cannot be defeated by the shirt. I can only be defeated by my fellow townies now.


But yeah, regarding the mafia getting to pick what the scan results are, you're right: I FULLY expect that if any scan on me were to happen by Populus Romanus tonight, I'd scan mafia. But, if say.... one of the people who opposed giving Memnon the shirt were to scan me, I'd scan townie.

Interesting. And if I were to scan townie, I'd get murdered really fast. Same night, most likely.

As such, I can't recommend scanning me except by roughly half of the players in the game which I doubt are invested in this Memnon gambit. Trouble is since I'm a suspect you can't really trust who I would recommend.

Who would be the most impartial?