Three Wolf Moon [Concluded]

[Visor]

Yes, you're right. I just sent him a PM.

Extra:

If Monty is allowed to be scanned and is scum:
Then score one for us! We should now use this to scan dead people, to make sure what they are. Or if we have no dead suspects, scan a townie. Lynch EVERY round. This is how we win. Next goes Johnhughthom for the lynch. Of course the shirt could be lying, but my suspicions are that it wouldn't be...

If Monty is allowed to be scanned and is town:
Weird. Either the shirt is useless or he really is town. Use as either a dead suspect scanner, or Pizza's plan.

If we can't scan dead players, my idea of what we should do:
Someone try scanning themself? Or try scanning suspects.

It's been a while since I've been able to get into a mafia game lol.

[Visor]

Another thought occurs...

Zack is not a new, unexperienced host. He would've considered the balance issues if the shirt confirmed people as town.

Therefore I doubt the scan's use against alive players. But if we can't use it against dead players... I need confirmation.

[Ishmael]

Although another thing about him being an experienced host is that he knows just how much scepticism the shirt's results would receive, and possibly planned for that. It's a bit of a WIFOM situation, so I agree with Visorslash that we need clear confirmation of whatever theory we run with.

[Visor]

Memnon: "I checked Double A's room; he's dead. I tried to use the power of the shirt to determine his murderer -- for his throat was slit -- but it was to no avail. All I discovered was that Johhog didn't do it." (Johhog has been scanned as town!)

Reading the writeups...

Johhog didn't do it. But his scum buddy might've.

MAYBE

It can only catch the scums if that one scum commits the murder? Like, say I decide to murder B_Ray tonight, and I am scanned, I would come up scum. But if my scum partner Ishamel was scanned he would come up town? That's a possiblity.

[Zack]

The rules do not prohibit scanning dead players.

(However, if you don't send in a target, I will only random.org to scan a living player.)

Oh, and you guys are awesome. Great entertainment.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

B Ray:

Thanks for the kind thoughts. However, I don't really try to post a lot in mafia threads anymore; true for the last couple of years if you run the numbers. Also, I very much AM hosting capo already. I have been rewriting role sheets of and on for days now; interacting with the artist (his new concept is wonderful); and monitoring the sign up thread for updating etc. Hosting the huge games requires quite a lot of lead up work or the whole thing runs poorly.

Pizza:

Cannot argue that I am beyond using such a lurk approach. In point of fact I have been trying to keep my posts at this 1.5/phase level so as not to twig those using meta-detective strategies as easily as I used to do so. I learned much from Kommodus.


On the shirt:

I haven't played a zack game before, so I do not know how intricately he formats things. However, it is possible that the shirt does not scan current player status but that the shirt ENACTS player status. Moreover, the three wolf thing, thematically, suggests three mafiosi; or alternatively that every third scanee is somehow different than the previous two (made mafia?). There are almost too many possibilities for consideration, depending on how far you take it.

So, to those of you who have gamed in his games before, just how far will our host twist things to keep us hopping?

[Montmorency]

So, to those of you who have gamed in his games before, just how far will our host twist things to keep us hopping?

Mmmmm.

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[Askthepizzaguy]

The rules do not prohibit scanning dead players.

(However, if you don't send in a target, I will only random.org to scan a living player.)

Oh, and you guys are awesome. Great entertainment.

From this, I'd conclude that it is at least equally useful to scan the living; therefore I wouldn't bother with the dead.

If Monty's town, knowing that won't really help us catch scum, and it breaks the chain.

Never break the chain.

If Monty's guilty, he's freaking dead. Move on.