"Heretics" The Religion(s) Devoured

**Samurai Waki** · 08-27-2011, 05:20

Bogomil, Manichaeus, and Valentinus come to mind...

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-01-2011, 01:42

Originally Posted by Samurai Waki

Bogomil, Manichaeus, and Valentinus come to mind...

Just checked them and am convinced that I had failed to make a clear opening post.

This thread does not only aim at heretics in religious meaning, but mostly at those whose thoughts/ideas were contradicting and disturbing the hegemony of their times which eventually used religion against them as the means of persecution. To quote NightwindKing:

Depends on whether he's asking about intellectuals labeled such for their intelligence or folks labeled such for their difference in beliefs.

Oh yes, mister, the bolded part. However I reckon intelligence generally shakes the ground under the pillars of beliefs, eventually leading to the latter part of your statement.

But still, Samurai Waki, Bogomil and Manichaeus are new to me and glad to be informed of them.

**Kralizec** · 09-01-2011, 14:38

Socrates might be an example - one of the reasons he was persecuted was his alleged atheism.

**Skullheadhq** · 09-01-2011, 16:02

"Bogomil"
"Intellectual"

Wasn't he a backwards Bulgarian priest reviving a 1000 year old heresy which had been refuted by church fathers like Irenaeus in 180AD. Servetus revived the 4th century heresy of arianism, which had been proven nonsense since the Council of Nicaea in 325. I'd prefer not to call them intellectuals.

Bruno and Galilei weren't really persecuted because their teachings were unchristian, instead, Galilei was a devout catholic, but because he refuted Aristotle, which was viewed as second-to-best authority, next to the Bible during the entire middle ages, which was 'impossible' to refute. The Galilei 'process' was filled with quotes from Aristotle. So, even calling Bruno and Galilei heretics is a mistake.

Muhammed however, is not a prophet but rather an heretic with very heterodox views, and copied a great many things from notorious heretics, like Arius, Nestorius and even some things from modalism and manicheism and he mixed it with arab paganism. This accompanied with retarded conspiricy theories like evil apostles and Jews malevolently distorting their own scriptures. These things plus Muhammed's lust for power and conquest spawned what we call Islam today.

Originally Posted by Kralizec

Socrates might be an example - one of the reasons he was persecuted was his alleged atheism.

Which wasn't the REAL reason the Athenians wanted to get rid of Socrates, but you know that? Right?