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    Ya, orcs don''t exactly do well against heavy cav. XD
    I was really worried that army was going to die though, I just had no way of knowing how much you could throw into it.
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    Just what I had left in West Osgiliath plus Denethor and his bodyguards. I then made a further mistake by attacking with Denethor rather than sallying (so it was a bridge battle with me as the attacker).

    I think they only killed a few orcs (I keep wanting to say Orks ) on each charge but the morale penalty for the Nazghul dying was apparently quite big (and by then everyone was "exhausted").

    Your army is at about half strength or so from when you ended your turn.
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    Oh man I wish they were orks. Get some shootas in there and just spray bullets in all directions, get a nice WAAAAAGGGHH started. :)
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    I wonder if they would force the weedy looking local Orks into the Waaaagghh! or just kill them for not being Orky enough.
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    Go Gondor! In my SP High Elven campaign I've had to save Rohan's arse from a couple of huge Invasion armies and I've single handedly ended the OOTMM and all but extinguished the OOG with the help of the Dwarves (who rule as an AI controlled race, being so favored in autocalc).

    Bt Gondor... Man Gondor has been topping the charts, sometimes being contested by Mordor but overall being able to produce so much stuff as to stalemate Mordor and Haard alike. Somehow the stupid AI managed to loose both Osgiliaths around turn 60 but by that time I had a full stack alraedy there to "liberate them". Still Gondor is spewing stack after stack from Minas Tirith and if these were fougth battles between AI armies it would have stomped Mordor right up to the Black Gate I think.

    BTW I would volnteer to sub Rohan if for some reason you cannot put the time into it Zim.
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    Turn 60? I'll have lost both Osgiliaths by turn 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim View Post
    Turn 60? I'll have lost both Osgiliaths by turn 6.
    Look on the bright side, it'll be turn 7 when I actually take them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    Look on the bright side, it'll be turn 7 when I actually take them.
    Wait, maybe not, what turn are we actually on?

    In any case, I think you are still going to have a fine chance against me, you really have a lot of good provinces and Mordor bankrupts right off the bat pretty much no matter what you do.
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    Well the AI may or may have not lost them in the early stages. Given the size of the map and that Imladris cannot make spies or Diplomats, it took me 30 turns just to get to Gondor's Western border. Point is, they lost them AT turn 60, when I had already pushed the other AI baddies pretty far back. But archers suck in AR, I'd like to see Mordor assaulting Osgiliath when it's stacked with Gondor's archers.

    BTW the 3.0 release of TATW will feature custom battle map settlements. Minas Tirith, Osgiliath, Minas Morgul, The Black Gate, Moria, Helm's Deep, Imladris - all as they were in the movies/books. Pretty fun stuff! Imagine storming a 7 layered Minas Tirith that has 10 units of assorted archers with chevrons...
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    I'll be subbing Rohan tonight.
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    Assume you mean Silvan Elves? Is Slysnake's computer working these days?
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    Slysnake can play in the SS game, so yeah. But I think I have my turn after Eriador and definitely slysnake is after me as the Silvan Elves.
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    Ah yes of course. Sorry, a combination of your subbing and the incorrect order in the OP had me confused. All good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deguerra View Post
    Assume you mean Silvan Elves? Is Slysnake's computer working these days?
    Hey! My computer is fine now with it's i5 and AMD 6950! :D Turns out it was just driver issues T_T will play my turn tonight...

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    The other elves are up :D
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    slysnake?
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    Playing my turn right now.

    EDIT: Mordor is up EotTa_Mordor_T4.sav
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    I am having a lot of computer issues and will be unable to play my turns for at least a few days. I will try to give more information tonight.
    Would you like us to wait or sub you? I'm ok waiting a few days if need be, but I guess it depends on your computer.
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    Well, I think it will be 2-3 days from now, so I am okay with being subbed if you guys don't want to wait. I think my turn should be pretty self explanatory. Take osgiliath, continue other things along their current missions.
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    You can say that again. The best part was the charge of the five horsemen against a couple hundred orcs. The latter blinked first.





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    Ya, orcs don''t exactly do well against heavy cav. XD
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    ...
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    wait, wasn't he defeated in battle last turn...

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    Oh, and Denethor was defeated and can't be attacked by Mordor this turn. Of course, I can't move him next turn so Mordor can likely kill him then.
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    Crap, I missed that. I wasn't thinking in terms of being defeated when I used him to attack last turn (as opposed to if he were defeated by you on your turn).

    I'll need an extension then, which at least gives us some time to decide about getting a player for Rohan.

    Wait, the rule does seem to apply to defeats outside of the attacking player's turn ("beaten in battle by a faction that is after them in the turn order"). Did you attack Denethor last turn or had he retreated to that spot just from my failed attack?

    - If an army is beaten in battle by a faction that is after them in the turn order that army may not move on the following turn. The player that defeated them should post which armies were beaten to make it easier to follow this and the following rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim View Post
    Wait, the rule does seem to apply to defeats outside of the attacking player's turn ("beaten in battle by a faction that is after them in the turn order").
    I was thinking about this myself recently. I don't think either rule about movement or immunity should apply in this case.

    The reason is if you (Zim) attack on your turn and lose, your guy retreats using the rest of his movement points from that turn. He then has them refreshed at the start of the next turn, just as if he had never attacked. So it's fine for him to be attacked by other players on their turns and for him to move on his next turn.

    The rule is intended to correct the unfairness which arises from (eg.) denethor being attacked on someone else's turn and then your not being able to move him (to safety or in counter-attack) when your turn comes around, leaving him wide open to attack on someone else's subsequent turn.

    Does that all make sense?

    So I think you just play on here, unless NB was going to attack him on his turn and refrained (which he shouldn't have even if the rule was in effect, because he had retreated to the city and was therefore not immune), in which case you might want to go back to there.
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