Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Cecil XIX]

select: GeneralHankerchief

[GeneralHankerchief]

I suppose he could be pretending, but he also told me that he was vigging a Nazi last night before any of this broke. Make what you will out of that.

[Xenoneb]

I suppose he could be pretending, but he also told me that he was vigging a Nazi last night before any of this broke. Make what you will out of that.

Who? Sub?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yes.

[God Emperor]

Meh.. I really fail to see the problem with the scans The rules clearly says that a detective can scan a person as 'unclear' .. As I said a few posts back ..

What is more important: Does anyone know if there was a reason behind the murder of Captain Blackadder?

[Winston Hughes]

I don't think Subo's investigation is wrong, perse, but that whomever investigated TS is questionable.

Maybe I've misunderstood this, but...

Erebus is saying he has spoken to one detective, who has two investigations per night (as per the detective role in the rules). And while the detective role does not mention that townies can scan as 'unclear', the townie role does say that some townies will come up as 'unclear' when investigated by a detective. (Presumably there are other roles that can also come up as unclear, or else 'unclear' would actually mean 'guaranteed innocent'. Thus the result does not clear The Stranger of suspicion.)

[The Stranger]

I suppose he could be pretending, but he also told me that he was vigging a Nazi last night before any of this broke. Make what you will out of that.

well that still wouldnt explain his guilty result. apart from the fact i find this rather odd. its odd to say im going nazi hunting and that then suddenly some nazi reveals come next phase. or in the other case its weird that if he knew about it he then didnt say anything about the reveal.

but ok i guess we just have to wait for the man himself.

[Xenoneb]

OKay. So there is Nazis, and Commies? Next thing you know there will be Hippies! :p

[Montmorency]

SSV

Well, that's one thing I didn't get. If it's Mass Effect related, why did he say he was using it to fish for 3rd parties? Why was The Stranger the first to post about it in-thread? Why was Subo so hesitant to mention it himself?

Does it follow that Subotan was looking for a Mass Effect 3rd-party?

[ULC]

Maybe I've misunderstood this, but...

Erebus is saying he has spoken to one detective, who has two investigations per night (as per the detective role in the rules). And while the detective role does not mention that townies can scan as 'unclear', the townie role does say that some townies will come up as 'unclear' when investigated by a detective. (Presumably there are other roles that can also come up as unclear, or else 'unclear' would actually mean 'guaranteed innocent'. Thus the result does not clear The Stranger of suspicion.)

I check the rules again and yes, apparently detectives do investigate twice per night. Once Seamus clarifies then I will make my decision on whether or not to back off.

I am sadface, I thought I was on to something D:

[Montmorency]

What are these words that you speak, ULC of the dark helm? Ever do the lords of town seek your counsel, which in previous times has proven best.

[Winston Hughes]

I am sadface, I thought I was on to something D:

As did I, when I first saw what you posted. Still, it's always worth working these things through.

[Erebus]

To clarify, the detective can in fact investigate two people a night. These investigations were made last night.

I realize the source is suspect, but I'd rather be in the spotlight then an actual detective. Based on other information provided by this source I believe their claim. So if you want to be suspicious of me that's fine.

However, you are voting for me, based on an interpretation of the rules from your perspective. Obviously the townie role conflicts with the Detective write-up. Only the Detective role-pm can state for sure the rules. And that doesn't put it out of human era.

The best way to be certain, check the final write-up for the other Capo's I remember one of them having a unified list of reads.

We can ask Seamus about the detective rules for unclear, but apparently only ULC seems to have an issue.

Why is so hard to swallow ULC?

FoS:ULC

[Erebus]

cross-post with Winston and ULC.

I'll unFoS:ULC for not knocking a better safe then sorry approach.

[God Emperor]

If the results are from this night, then he cannot have joined a mafia team yet, if I read the rules correctly.
If he did kill Blackadder, which seems very likely, then He is either a wiseguy or a town (not counting third party roles as I don't really know those)
If he did not kill Blackadder then he should ofc die right away.

[ULC]

Why is so hard to swallow ULC?

You'll learn quickly how dogmatic and demagogically I am. I'm quick to judge and hammer if for no other reason then to be aggressive and see what comes of it. think of it as compensation for lurkers.

Unvote:, Vote:Subotan

[Neri]

Vote: Subotan as overcomplicated plots do make one suspicious, and I would rather not have a blackmailer stay in the game.

Select: GH since he's been doing a good job having a voice in the game without becoming spammy.

[Romanic]

Alright, vote: Subotan

[Subotan]

Subotan is guilty because he was trying to vig Montmorency last night.

This is correct. The previous night I was trying to set up a sabotaged vigging with Yaropolk upon a protected target, in order to help create doctors. However, this fell through for a number of reasons, including: the fact that everybody was working through Pizza; leaving it too late in the phase to organise; and IRL stuff which prevented me from having the time to organise a group of six people. I therefore took part in no actions on the first night, and a vigging on the second which fell through due to Yaropolk's failure to send in a pm.

not at all i just find it suspicious that you vote for your mate then switch when you can do so without being noticed cuz there is a major bandwagon going on. can you explain that? what has caused you to change your mind about ACIN from vote material to save at all cost candidate?

also its not wifom, not voting for acin isnt scummy many ppl havent done so, including myself. but voting for acin then switch to someone bandwagoned and then later protect acin and even lie for him, that is kinda weird, dont you agree? tho you yourself just said that ppl who have been voting for acin are suspicious, so would you include yourself in that category?

Let's remind ourselves of the context surrounding my vote on ACIN - I explicitly said that I was happy with the Earthling lynch, but that I wanted to press ACIN in public for what he had done in N1. Soon after, a bandwagon latched on to me like a cluster of irrational barnacles. I then switched back to Earthling, as he was the better lynch.

TL;DR Don't take my quotes out of context in order to make me look bad, as I will pick you up on it.

Well, that's one thing I didn't get. If it's Mass Effect related, why did he say he was using it to fish for 3rd parties? Why was The Stranger the first to post about it in-thread? Why was Subo so hesitant to mention it himself?

Does it follow that Subotan was looking for a Mass Effect 3rd-party?

I could have used anything. It just so happens I like Mass Effect, and decided it would be fun to continue the Mass Effect theme I've been nurturing. I needed something that was enough of a signal to attract third parties, whilst not being obvious enough to make townies aware I was doing so. It worked perfectly, and the town is daft to ignore its results.

Also a detective has pmed me, I personally trust the source.

Subutan investigated as Guilty
TheStranger as unclear

Use this information how you will.

Of course you trust them, you're probably part of the same third party as The Stranger. You've been like a monkey on my back the whole time since Stranger's guilt broke. In any case, these are irrelevant; either the results are a fabrication, or my attempted vigging was enough to make me "guilty".

I suppose he could be pretending, but he also told me that he was vigging a Nazi last night before any of this broke. Make what you will out of that.

My sources do not lie. Let me repeat that, as some of you will insist on reading that to mean something completely different.

My sources do not lie.

As it happens, in addition to Montmorency's Nazi connection, and Stranger's third party shenanigans, I also possess knowledge of a mafia scum who has attempted to recruit wise guy(s). And no, before you butt in, I wasn't the one asked. Since the town seems particularly feral today, know that that if you lynch me, I will take this secret with me to the grave - once you've all calmed down a bit and pursued some serious candidates, then I will be co-operative and reveal it.

[Montmorency]

If you were good town, you'd just reveal it.

[God Emperor]

Meh.. You shouldn't turn up guilty when failing to kill someone..

Unvote; Vote: Subotan

[thefluffyone93]

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Exactly. So who here like TF2?

Are you referring to the hat-trading simulation?

[Subotan]

TALI

17 - ACIN: (landlubber, gibsong, Visorslash, Craterus, Choxorn, sturmhauke, Sprig, ATPG, B_Ray, Jarema, Arjos, Xehh II, edse, shlin28, Ibn-Khaldun, Peasant Phil, Suburban Plankton)
12 - Subotan: {The Stranger, issaikhaan, Sister Coyote, Montmorency, Populus Romanus, Silver Jan, Kennigit, TinCow, ULC, Neri, Romanic, God Emperor}
9 - El Barto: {Winston Hughes, Beskar, Frozen In Ice, Seon, Johhog, Ironside, Cahoma, GamezRule, Erebus}
8 - The Stranger: { qlyphz, Memnon, El Barto, Commander Subotan, Beefy187, guiri, Riedquat, Lewwyn}
7 - Montmorency: {Yaropolk, Sasaki, White_eyes:D, hero di classico, Death is yonder, Diamondeye}
4 - Yaropolk: {Oh! TheLastDays!, Diana Abnoba, DaveShack, Xenoneb}
1 - Beefy187: {Psychonaut}
1 - Abstain: {Double A}
1 - Seon: {thefluffyone93}

If you were good town, you'd just reveal it.

I've been treated very badly by all you mean boys and girls, so I'm not in a mood to play nice.

[Montmorency]

You're playing with your life, this ain't no truth or dare!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Citizens of Fatlington, the Fatlington Police Department accepts Askthepizzaguy's explanation of his previous actions. Mr. smokingunman also told us that his message was delayed as well. So we will continue to use the radio station to broadcast our information. We would like to inform you that woad&fangs was found guilty last night. The Fatlington Police Department authorizes appropriate citizen deputies to deal with him as they see fit.

If this hasn't been posted yet; apologies for the delay again.

[shlin28]

Getting tired of this "we deserve better" nonsense from 'townies'. Being town is all about making sacrifices and doing things for no recognition or rewards, if you can't do these simple things for the greater good, you better get out of the way

Unvote: ACIN
Vote: Subotan

DOUBLE LYNCH! DOUBLE LYNCH! DOUBLE LYNCH!

[TinCow]

I also possess knowledge of a mafia scum who has attempted to recruit wise guy(s). And no, before you butt in, I wasn't the one asked. Since the town seems particularly feral today, know that that if you lynch me, I will take this secret with me to the grave - once you've all calmed down a bit and pursued some serious candidates, then I will be co-operative and reveal it.

This makes you more lynch-worthy than ever.

[Visor]

I tried that move before Subotan, it doesn't work.

[Erebus]

Unvote:, Vote: Subotan

Woe is me?

[AggonyKing]

blech, that took a while to catch up @_@ vote: Subotan