Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Renata]

"This group will function even if one of you forgets to send in orders."

Apropos of nothing I'm certain of, it didn't.

[Suburban Plankton]

That hurts more than any accusation. I think I will kill you next game.

Nothing personal. It's just that when you (the global 'you') need to manufacture a story, you have an increased chance of accidentally making up something that doesn't quite match reality. And when you are inventing the evidence to back up your story, you run the risk of forgetting exactly what it was that you planned to say really happened, and winding up with a story that isn't quite consistent with your original claim. Then, when you try to go back and fabricate something to cover up for the original mistake, well, things start getting complicated.

[El Barto]

Alright, so I must be guilty because I haven't been able to keep my story straight, therefor I am a liar. But also, I have been planning everything in advance, so i am fooling everyone and thus must be scummy.

Therefor I planned my conflicting lies in order to put the heat on me and get myself lynched, because I am mafia! It makes perfect sense!

Not quite, but please drop all those lampshades.

[Andres]

ACIN, why were you guys so keen on wanting to kill on N1?

I admit I didn't read the entire thread because of lack of time, so if there's something in this thread that incriminated Earthling pre N1, I'd very much like you to quote that. I'd also like to know why Pizza didn't object on killing Earthling N1.

I generally do not trust people who want to kill on N1, so I'm going to FoS Pizza and the entire ACIN kill squad.

I also don't understand why town focuses so much on ACIN and lets the other members of his wannabe kill squad off the hook.

Crazed Rabbit intrigues me the most. He doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would let his team down.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If everyone but CR sent in orders, than it would have to be CR as the wiseguy. We had 4 people and failed. Thus we didn't have a wiseguy.

Gotta go to work, but this is the correct answer, apologies to CR.

He was needed in the thing if in fact the group was to function, because there were also townies involved.

[The Stranger]

this looks like an attempt to create doctors.

[Xenoneb]

That was a good idea.

[Cahoma]

I voted for Earthling before it was cool *hipster*

[a completely inoffensive name]

Nothing personal. It's just that when you (the global 'you') need to manufacture a story, you have an increased chance of accidentally making up something that doesn't quite match reality. And when you are inventing the evidence to back up your story, you run the risk of forgetting exactly what it was that you planned to say really happened, and winding up with a story that isn't quite consistent with your original claim. Then, when you try to go back and fabricate something to cover up for the original mistake, well, things start getting complicated.

I know, I was just being in character. Wasn't really hurt. And yes, your logic is completely correct. It isn't what happened this time, but like 80% of the time that is how it goes. my track record in previous games shows that I am good at keeping elaborate lies, I wouldn't slip up on the basic premise like that.

Not quite, but please drop all those lampshades.

Lol, you think being aggressive and not provide any sort of logical response will help you?

ACIN, why were you guys so keen on wanting to kill on N1?

I admit I didn't read the entire thread because of lack of time, so if there's something in this thread that incriminated Earthling pre N1, I'd very much like you to quote that. I'd also like to know why Pizza didn't object on killing Earthling N1.

I generally do not trust people who want to kill on N1, so I'm going to FoS Pizza and the entire ACIN kill squad.

I also don't understand why town focuses so much on ACIN and lets the other members of his wannabe kill squad off the hook.

Crazed Rabbit intrigues me the most. He doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would let his team down.

I don't know why other people were keen on killing. I wanted to kill because I like killing people in mafia games. Just like in star wars I killed because I was plain jane town person so I killed for fun. same thing this time around.

As far as I know nothing was incriminating Earthling pre night 1. The first red flag for earthling imo was the fact he had two bodyguards protect him.

[Suburban Plankton]

As far as I know nothing was incriminating Earthling pre night 1. The first red flag for earthling imo was the fact he had two bodyguards protect him.

Are we to read the color as saying that he had two bodyguards protecting him, or that there was a group of four killers and a group of two protectors? In the latter case since both groups were insufficient to perform the task, I assume the kill would fail.

And if we're to believe Pizza, should we just go ahead and kill CR Today instead of ACIN and/or earthling?



Or should we just off Pizza for being a busybody?

[autolycus]

I'll sub in if needed.

[Renata]

Earthling's protectors have been claimed as a townie group, for whatever that's worth, and it's known by a number of people who arranged it. He's scummy for his reaction to pressure today, but not so much for the protection. If I had to guess, the motivations had nothing to do with whatever alignment Earthling might be.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Earthling's protectors have been claimed as a townie group, for whatever that's worth, and it's known by a number of people who arranged it. He's scummy for his reaction to pressure today, but not so much for the protection. If I had to guess, the motivations had nothing to do with whatever alignment Earthling might be.

Who protected him?

[Renata]

I only know one name myself and I'm not going to reveal it.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I only know one name myself and I'm not going to reveal it.

I revealed my entire team, and you won't give one name?

[Renata]

Nope.

[shlin28]

As far as I can see it, the case on Earthling is based on the fact the may be a possible Commie and because he was protected by two people. In the former case, I really don't care because anyone with a townie role PM can see that if neither the town or mafia wins, the town still gets a draw, whilst if the mafia/wiseguys win, we lose. In the latter case, I believe this line is pretty informartive: "There was nobody to stop the fourth shooter, however, who moved toward Earthling and triggered a burst of fire." To me, this would imply that it was simply a failed protection group instead of anything role-related, so again, not much of a piece of evidence.

ACIN on the other hand has alternated between "Willing to die to focus on reading", "Willing to die to be a replacement" and "Not willing to die at all". His PMs prove nothing and his post splurge in the last few hours reminds me a lot of his behaviour in ATPG2 when he was nearly lynched as mafia. I had a mafia hiatus of nearly a year so I have no idea if he does this every single time he is about to be lynched, but the ACIN I remember don't seem to post as much as he does now.

[El Barto]

this looks like an attempt to create doctors.

What? Setting attack and vig groups on the same?

I'd still like to know who's the 'master'mind that's been having people have at each other last night.

[Erebus]

Who protected him?

Why is this information pertinent?

Everyone who looked saw failed attack and failed protection (4 of 5 gunmen show up, 2 of 3 protectors come in. 2 Protectors take out 3 gunmen, and one gunmen isn't enough to kill earthling).

[Frozen In Ice]

I think all the pressure on ACIN has been very helpful in exposing more information. Now we can get down to business and lynch Earthling. Unvote, vote: Earthling.

[Neri]

posting from phone; excuse brevity. CR told me he bailed because he thought others, unamed, had bailed already.

[Sprig]

So kill me.

As you wish.

Vote: ACIN

[Chaotix]

posting from phone; excuse brevity. CR told me he bailed because he thought others, unamed, had bailed already.

Where's Subotan?

We need to get him over here to tell us what's wrong with that picture.

[a completely inoffensive name]

As far as I can see it, the case on Earthling is based on the fact the may be a possible Commie and because he was protected by two people. In the former case, I really don't care because anyone with a townie role PM can see that if neither the town or mafia wins, the town still gets a draw, whilst if the mafia/wiseguys win, we lose. In the latter case, I believe this line is pretty informartive: "There was nobody to stop the fourth shooter, however, who moved toward Earthling and triggered a burst of fire." To me, this would imply that it was simply a failed protection group instead of anything role-related, so again, not much of a piece of evidence.

ACIN on the other hand has alternated between "Willing to die to focus on reading", "Willing to die to be a replacement" and "Not willing to die at all". His PMs prove nothing and his post splurge in the last few hours reminds me a lot of his behaviour in ATPG2 when he was nearly lynched as mafia. I had a mafia hiatus of nearly a year so I have no idea if he does this every single time he is about to be lynched, but the ACIN I remember don't seem to post as much as he does now.

never once have I been "not willing to die". People asked me to defend myself, so I did. Also, I am willing to act in ways that almost got me revealed as a townie in order to make sure that you can't say "ACIN is acting differently, something is scummy."

ACIN doesn't have a set personality or style of posting (or at least I go out of my way to try not to).

EDIT: I think more long term than any of you can imagine when it comes to the image I project.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Why is this information pertinent?

Everyone who looked saw failed attack and failed protection (4 of 5 gunmen show up, 2 of 3 protectors come in. 2 Protectors take out 3 gunmen, and one gunmen isn't enough to kill earthling).

Why would any reasonable townie want to restrict info this stage of the game?

[Erebus]

I need some clarification on something. Is there something on the Wise-guy role PM that says they count as two villagers for vig groups or something? Because my townie PM doesn't make that distinction.

And if it does, ACIN seems to have access to the wording of that PM as well, despite not being a Wiseguy (thus not successfully killing).

Also I'm wholly opposed to outing anyone in any protection group. By outing protection groups it'd be easier to track potential doctors. Vigilante -> Wiseguy -> Mafia.

Seems common sense.

Protect your protection buddies.

[Erebus]

Cross-post with ACIN, but I think my post answers his question.

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: Sasaki

FOS: Earthling, Chaotix

First night seems to not have been too bad.

[a completely inoffensive name]

As you wish.

Vote: ACIN

kthx

[a completely inoffensive name]

I need some clarification on something. Is there something on the Wise-guy role PM that says they count as two villagers for vig groups or something? Because my townie PM doesn't make that distinction.

And if it does, ACIN seems to have access to the wording of that PM as well, despite not being a Wiseguy (thus not successfully killing).

Also I'm wholly opposed to outing anyone in any protection group. By outing protection groups it'd be easier to track potential doctors. Vigilante -> Wiseguy -> Mafia.

Seems common sense.

Protect your protection buddies.

Doctors can protect someone by themselves. They don't need two people.