Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[El Barto]

No, you guys are all really suggesting the wrong follow ups.

First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.

Second, you're not looking at the right people to be lynched when I turn out town, if you do lynch me today after all.

Chaotix is a start for seriously trying to start his own mafia group. Out of the false dichotomy candidates you're looking at though:

The town will obviously turn on pizza for coordination that is generally helping the mafia and getting people kills on the way towards becoming mafia. That happens on its own eventually, no need to make it an issue out of my lynch, but townies who already wanted pizza dead and want to help the town in general would do well to not lynch me, distant third candidate votes as always don't matter.

Likewise ACIN is his own issue and nothing about his or my identity really confirms anything about the other that people are questioning here. He can be examined and rightly lynched on his own for faking a mafia contact that doesn't exist or just trying to be recruited into the mafia.

What I would request, is that if you lynch me today and he's not already dead, you guys kill Sasaki immediately after you get the reveal I'm a townie. He is by far the scummiest one pushing the bandwagon, far too much effort into this lynch for no reason he's given against me other than that I acted like a townie would act. It's quite possible he knows he is purposefully disrupting townie groups and efforts.

Any other way to lynch more than one person per night, Mr. Smartypants?

[Earthling]

Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.

[Earthling]

Any other way to lynch more than one person per night, Mr. Smartypants?

Um, yeah. I'll personally recognize that you've given the best justification for a vote against me that anyone has given though, if you honestly didn't read the rules.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.

I have played this game before. "Everyone knows i am right when I say, blah blah blah." No, not really.

This is what you always do to force something before info comes out. You try to establish the results of something before it actually happens and tell people to act on that.

[El Barto]

Um, yeah. I'll personally recognize that you've given the best justification for a vote against me that anyone has given though, if you honestly didn't read the rules.

I read them a long time ago. Still haven't explained what your big awesome plan is. I'm half-tempted to go with acin's scheme, you know.

[Earthling]

I read them a long time ago.

All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.

[a completely inoffensive name]

All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.

There are 110+ people in this game. What are you trying to rush? I think that is what people should be wondering.

Very first day to lynch and you are trying to say, 'We need to kill as many people as possible. Lynch everyone on the day when no one has any info!"

[Memnon]

All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.

Says the man with the 666th post...



I'm getting a bad vibe from you, anyway, so Vote: Earthling

[Renata]

Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me, then you, then pizza, all one day at a time. Despite your claims to be town and not care about dying, you seem to be desperate not to die and maybe you are hoping to hold off a day or two more, but it's obvious to plenty of people you and pizza will die when you have confirmed townie deaths at your hands. The point is to save the town trouble and lots of wasted time.

Actually this is not wrong and I do think that tied votes could have their place. (Not now, though, GH should get his hands dirty and make a choice if it comes to that today.) This is the main argument FOR vigilante kills, despite the considerable risk. It will probably not be possible to get all the mafia dead fast enough with townies hitting a few of them at night.

Your argument against Sasaki is pure OMGUS, though. There's not actually anything wrong with the case against you.

[Renata]

with*out* townies, blahblahblah. Can't type today.

[Earthling]

There are 110+ people in this game. What are you trying to rush?

You're the one who wanted to kill as many people as possible the first night, isn't that right?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.

The town can form 10+ vig groups if it wants. This is another of your ridiculous arguments...

[El Barto]

All you have to do is have a tie vote and the Director can lynch multiple people. Nobody can honestly believe it's a smart move to lynch one of ACIN or me today and the other tomorrow regardless (alignment won't even be revealed by the GM yet). That's obviously completely wasting the town's time on lynches.

OK, since you're both completely hogging the thread we should lynch you both. Amirite?

x-post edit: never mind what Sasaki's said, vig groups can always be formed.

[a completely inoffensive name]

You're the one who wanted to kill as many people as possible the first night, isn't that right?

Actually no. I wanted to just kill you.

[a completely inoffensive name]

OK, since you're both completely hogging the thread we should lynch you both. Amirite?

Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.

[Subotan]

Where's Subotan?

We need to get him over here to tell us what's wrong with that picture.

I was down the pub, fyi. What is wrong with that picture?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.

I think it is 15 me and like 20 or 21 Earthling.

[El Barto]

Actually no. I wanted to just kill you.

Many people do, every single game.

Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.

That's why I quit last time, to my great regret, because there was no point in playing the game.

Can we get an updated tally? I did my Directorly duty a few hours ago and don't really feel like it now.

For a few kippers, this kitten could do it. Just post a linky to the latest tally and i'll work from there.

[Erebus]

Earthling 26
Mr. Caulking (ACIN) 16

Next closest is Chaotix 4

[a completely inoffensive name]

That's why I quit last time, to my great regret, because there was no point in playing the game.

Alright then, I will shut up. I don't want to ruin the game for people.

[Jolt]

Every townie knows how absurdly bad it would be to lynch me.

Now where did I read this before...?

[classical_hero]

Lol you should have seen ATPG's game a few months back. I think there was literally like 30-40 posts of me and him going back forth.

That was fun to read, not. Most of that was just skipped when I tried to read that game. Is it going to be deja vu again? If so i hope one of you get lynched tonight, which seems likely and then the other gets offed during the night and we will have some sense of peace in this game.

[Populus Romanus]

The case on Earthling is more than insane, it is psychotic. He says the word wobbly and we lynch him?

vote: abstain

[Erebus]

The case on Earthling is more than insane, it is psychotic. He says the word wobbly and we lynch him?

vote: abstain

So you haven't read anything beyond the issue with the word wobbly, or are you trying to cover for a communist buddy?

He admitted himself he used the word to try and trick the communist. Are you just going to conveniently overlook this fact?

FoS: Populus Romanus

[Riedquat]

Vote: abstain

[El Barto]

Alright then, I will shut up. I don't want to ruin the game for people.

Don't take it that harshly, it's not that I don't want you to post, but if we're having a re-edition of that last one I'll just wait until both of you are dead and post only who I'm voting for. If by the time you're both dead I'm still alive and interested in playing I might bother to post some arguments.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: Earthling

The wobbly thing is too large to ignore.

[El Barto]

Another reason for you two to pipe it down is that we have a couple dozen people with one posts and another couple dozen with 2 and so on. People can lurk quite comfortably with this thread-hogging.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Don't take it that harshly, it's not that I don't want you to post, but if we're having a re-edition of that last one I'll just wait until both of you are dead and post only who I'm voting for. If by the time you're both dead I'm still alive and interested in playing I might bother to post some arguments.

I know, I wasn't taking it personally. I just realize that people got annoyed last time me and Earthling argued and I didn't want to annoy 100+ people from participating in the game until we were dead.