Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Clitsome]

Vote: ACIN

I've been up way too long reading this thread. Someone needs to hang for ruining my beautysleep.

[scottishranger]

Wow I go to school and a soccer game and come home to see iv missed the bandwagon...

I think what everyone is missing is that why would Seamus put more commies in? Commies were last game, hes going to move forward. Dont get me wrong, I would love for their to be communists(their role in this kind of game fascinates me) but I just dont see Seamus repeating himself. Hes gonna go for something more original.

ACIN's case is... different and im not sure i really understand it wholly. Ill come back to it and I think the town should keep a close eye on his future actions. Might i suggest a scan of him tonight?

After saying that though, I dont think Earthlings done a great job defending himself in his posts. They seem filled with OMGUS and his postings are getting desperate. and I dont really believe him to be a pro-town role. soooo Vote: Earthling

[a completely inoffensive name]

[QUOTE=Craterus;2053374606]Since you asked so nicely...

You'll always be a question mark which will only serve as an unwanted distraction in later votes. And I hate (hate hate) that "I'm busy IRL so I don't care if I get lynched" gambit.[QUOTE]
Have you seen my contest? It's a big challenge for me.

Also, how many mafia names were revealed to you? If it was just one, I'd make it public. There's no reason not to capitalise on a mistake, even if it was an 'accident'.

I have already explained why I do not want to reveal his name yet.

[Zack]

Have you seen my contest? It's a big challenge for me.

Don't play the "I'm busy in RL" card when you have the most posts in the thread.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Don't play the "I'm busy in RL" card when you have the most posts in the thread.

My quarter doesn't start until the 22nd.

[BillMc]

Yeah, that is exactly what he is doing. The problem is, he almost always does...

Fairynuff.

I've nothing to really say about Earthling (as the runaway vote leader at present) but if my luck follows me from other mafia games on different boards, my time in this life is rather short (and real world travel is beckoning). So I'll say this, AskthePizzaGuy and Renata are both criminals.

[Backwards Logic]

Wow, I come back to about 10 pages of posts to go through, resulting in two bandwagons. I deduce this from reading:

Bandwagon on Earthling is due to the word 'wobbly' and his spirited not-so-good/squirmy defense he threw up.
Bandwagon on ACIN is due to the vig hit that failed to happen, his 'knowledge' of something game-breaking and refusing to reveal it, and in a few isolated cases, choosing a 'suspicious' moniker for everyone to follow.

Personally, with the deadline so near I see no reason to tack on to either Earthling or ACIN. This early, both bandwagons have some legitimacy to them, so I can't the premise behind either. Instead, I'd like to cast something else I picked up on. Maybe it's common knowledge and I've missed it somewhere, but ULC's post 520 mentions this:

most nontown factions have a 3 vote block.

So, how on Earth do you know this?

Vote: ULC.

[scottishranger]

So, how on Earth do you know this?

Vote: ULC.

Mafia familys start out with a don, a luca, and a made. This gives them three votes. I also believe last time the commies came in 3s too.

[SisterCoyote]

Fairynuff.

I've nothing to really say about Earthling (as the runaway vote leader at present) but if my luck follows me from other mafia games on different boards, my time in this life is rather short (and real world travel is beckoning). So I'll say this, AskthePizzaGuy and Renata are both criminals.

Wait.

What?

[White_eyes:D]

So I'll say this, AskthePizzaGuy and Renata are both criminals.

As in scum or just wannabe but soon to be so? Need more then your word here.

[Chaotix]

Mafia familys start out with a don, a luca, and a made. This gives them three votes. I also believe last time the commies came in 3s too.

Confirmed, but we didn't know each other from the beginning.

[Erebus]

Fairynuff.

I've nothing to really say about Earthling (as the runaway vote leader at present) but if my luck follows me from other mafia games on different boards, my time in this life is rather short (and real world travel is beckoning). So I'll say this, AskthePizzaGuy and Renata are both criminals.

Is this a detective read? Criminal can be Townie, Wise Guy, Made or Luca. So don't necessarily jump to conclusion on this. I really hope you aren't a detective that just revealed.

[scotchedpommes]

Is this a detective read? Criminal can be Townie, Wise Guy, Made or Luca. So don't necessarily jump to conclusion on this. I really hope you aren't a detective that just revealed.

Not that you'd draw attention to this, no.

[Diana Abnoba]

ACIN or Earthling? Which to choose, well I want you both dead (just to have less than 5 pages to read) .

Earthling; the wobbly thing is a problem (esp. since you did say you were trying to contact the Reds yourself), and you seem to be getting desperate to stay alive. Somethings off with you here.

ACIN; You won't reveal the mafia person you know, but you revealed your whole team last night, bad, bad boy. Are you trying to get recruited into that mafia family?

Well I say lets get rid of you both if we can, make this a tie. I think that Earthling is up a few over you my friend ACIN so...

Vote: ACIN



OOC:

On more of a personal note, my boyfriend was downgraded to a regular room today from the ICU. He is not yet out of the woods but not as critical now (thank God!!) Thanks again to all that posted/sent well wishes.

[classical_hero]

So, how on Earth do you know this?

Vote: ULC.

It's in the rules, so go back and read them.

@Diana, that is good news.

[White_eyes:D]

Does our dear Benevolent GH support the double-lynch mechanic?

[Secura]

vote: Seon

Putting his name out there as someone who will require closer scrutiny as the game progresses, as should anyone who submits orders and then doesn't turn up; what were you doing instead, Seon?

[Seon]

Shrug. I am not the one who did not show up. Seamus sent me a PM CC'ed to all 4 of you saying that "Protection succeeded."

[Secura]

Shrug. I am not the one who did not show up. Seamus sent me a PM CC'ed to all 4 of you saying that "Protection succeeded."

And he sent me one stating that myself and two of the others (all three of us as visible recipients) received credit for a successful action, meaning that you and the fifth person did not get that PM; now, I know that the other person sent their orders late and thus was unlikely to be counted, but you sent yours well in advance and even stated in the title for Seamus to "ignore prior orders".

So I ask again, what were you doing that prevented you from showing up?

[Neri]

Vote: Earthling since I'm not one to leave a job unfinished.

[Erebus]

Vote: Seon

[Earthling]

All right, so we're going to lynch ACIN, and people who are unsure, haven't read, want a meaningless vote on a third party or something -here's the reason:

I protected slash and earn last night from what clearly looks like be a mafia sanctioned hit. (along with two other townies who of course are not going to be revealed by me here) Mafia wanted him dead for organizing town protection groups as he was being open about, instead we saved him.

About a dozen people should know I'm one of the ones responsible for protecting slash and earn before now. Of course, any number more could know from information leaks. I don't at all doubt some mafia are in the votes to kill me on purpose for being a townie who was trying to protect people, anyone could have known that last night. With Chaotix for instance we both mutually know that I declined to participate in his group to kill people and work their way up to mafia and instead said I'd be doing protection.

Whether I die or not, anybody out there who has heard a second hand claim I protected slash and earn specifically should take a look at the person who passed that along and what else they've done, you know the sort of things that would look bad when I flip townie.

And of course I'm a townie, not a communist, but nobody is likely to hear from any FBI anytime soon, whether you believe I'm already in contact with them or the communists or not (not on all counts, afaik). Of course given any time if detectives do scan me they'd find I'm a townie, or find whatever other people involved are, they might or might not have enough scans to use on many various people and I'm fine with that, not asking them for particular scans, detectives will work on their own for the town regardless.

[slashandburn]

I'm interested in slysnake's wounding, why is he wounded? In previous capos you were either dead or bruised a bit but otherwise unharmed, i've never heard of wounding before, we definitely need to look more into that.

[Seon]

And I say again, as I explained to pizza earlier, that I have no idea why that happened. My Sent item box does not contain any other orders except for the one I cancelled in order to join yours in order to gain protection credit. In the end, I got none and only ended up getting suspected because of it.

I already issued a complaint to Seamus about it.

[Secura]

Vote: Seon

I'm sure I've seen you vote already this round, which means that this vote is unlikely to count without first unvoting.

want a meaningless vote on a third party

It may be meaningless to you, but I stand by my vote regardless; why throw my vote in with something I don't agree with? I don't buy into the cases against you or ACIN.

In the end, I got none and only ended up getting suspected because of it.

You got no credit for it because you didn't turn up! Check the writeup and see for yourself!

[Erebus]

The write up shows 3 cars arriving and a fourth arrive "late" that would explain Secura's story of 3 people successfully putting in Orders and one person with late orders.

However, you didn't show up. And unless Seamus agrees to somehow being his fault this means you either:

a) Wrote your orders wrong or sent them to the wrong person.
b) Are lying through your teeth, which means you should hang (unlikely as why protect a High Profile target like ATPG and then not show up)
c) Are of a role that can't be part of protection parties, thus most likely guilty.

I'll remove my vote when some other cause then "obviously fishy" is shown.

[Erebus]

Unvote: Earthling

Vote: Seon

Sorry, still rather new, not used to unvoting.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Boy I love coming back and seeing all my capo communications pasted in the thread.



That's for you ACIN.

The PMs (at least from my skimming of them) are correct. I dropped because ACIN was the only one to CC me.

vote: earthling

If I not only had my actions get revealed, but all my communications, you certainly aren't going to hide who you were working with and live.

CR

[Earthling]

Actually I agree Seon could is lying about his participation in Secura's group, what Seon is implying does not sound like the correct format nor how protection groups seem to receive results matching my own experience and Secura is making sense. That's a fine lynch too, I'm not against trying that, just need a lot of votes to get it to work.

unvote: ACIN
Vote: Seon

[a completely inoffensive name]

Earthling; the wobbly thing is a problem (esp. since you did say you were trying to contact the Reds yourself), and you seem to be getting desperate to stay alive. Somethings off with you here.

Ugh, whatever. I lied, it wasn't a mafia person. It is a third party role. He is all by himself with his role and I didn't want to ruin it for him. I only said mafia because I wanted the attention.

The Stranger is a third party role that is anti-town and I got confirmation of it from Subotan who got a PM from him asking if he was "the hub" that he needed to join up with for his role. The role is similar to the two lovers role that appeared in ATPG 2.

Have your free kill. Sorry Stranger, I done messed up. I should have kept my mouth shut about the mix up, but there will be other games.