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Here is a PM sent by ATPG to all the doctors advising us not to become surgeons.

What I want to know is why Landlubber went to GH with that pm. Why not post it immediately in the thread to save oneself? Also if the mafia are growing so fast why are there only a few instances of what appears to be recruitment meetings in the writeups? Is it up to chance if it appears in the writeup?

unvote: Aggonyking; Vote: ATPG
This explains a lot.

My bet is that those are some kind of third party faction. In a game this size I doubt the communists are the only 3rd party.

I guess this means I need to stop voting for Sigurd. It seems like APTG is trying to confuse everyone. Why would he claim multiple roles if he wasn't out only for himself?

It's classic pizza. Margarita Pizza, if you will. Bold to the point of suicidal, with an in-thread defense that consists of massive quantities of ungodly long posts. This is ATPG defending himself with endurance, not arguments. When he posts like this, the point is to tire you out and make you so exhausted from arguing with him that you just give up. It's not a pro-town strategy, it's a pro-ATPG strategy. As for the blatantly obvious private reveals, that's just ATPG being bold in a game that requires boldness to win. How else do you expect ATPG to act in a game where he's pursuing his own goals and there are over 100 people he has to eliminate? When ATPG offers you his head on a plate, you take it, because the who point is that he's gambling that you won't. Get it over with and move on.

Hehe.

unvote: Andres, vote: ATPG

Gentlemen, it's a nuclear device. Time is running out.

hehe... In a game where detectives are the only pro-town.
This is Capo de Tutti Capi after all.

Join the joker. Overthrow reason! Kill ATPG! You know you won't (will) regret it! False Commie FTW!

vote: Askthepizzaguy

Gonna be out of reach for about 24 hours, but I'd like some work on the upcoming night phase, if anyone has a group I can join (preferably protection).

Most likely because it all but admits landlubber's own guilt. Which begs the question of why he felt comfortable revealing it to GH.

This isn't exactly a choice between black and white. GH and ATPG are both grabbing for power in their own ways. And landlubber is just plain mafia.

AggonyKing: 14 (diana, diamondeye, OTLD, sasaki, chaotix, andres, memnon, fluffyone, herodiclassico, fyremarble, DIY, robbiecon, Daveshack, Kennigit)

Landlubber: 8 (Renata, autolycus, believer, Neri, beskar, lewwyn, Choxorn, whiteeyes)

Chaotix: 7 (peasantphill, GamezRule, Sturmhauke, CecilXIX, jarema, edse, Cahoma)
Sigurd: 5 (fubbleskag, Riedquat, shlin28, guiri, gnarlycharlie)
Askthepizzaguy: 6 (The Stranger, Populus, gibsonsg, Woad, Craterus, B Ray)
Diamondeye: 3 (Visorslash, Frozen in Ice, XehhII)

Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (AggonyKing)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Zack)
Shlin28: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
sturmhauke: 1 (seon)
fluffyone: 1 (secura)

Present: 1 (Camikaze)
Abstain: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Byzantine Knight)

I think the case against ATPG is better than the one against AggonyKing. For now. Vote:APTG.

Vote: AggonyKing

I know I have a lot of explaining to do, but I don't have enough time tonight. I will tell you that, even though it's ridiculously hard to believe, I am absolutely clueless as to how GH got that PM. I didn't send it to him, nor have I sent it to anyone else. The most plausible explanation is that ATPG shared this with his apparent network of scum, and one of them sent it to GH. I'll elaborate more tomroow-- as I said, not enough time tonight.
Either way, despite the fact that ATPG claims to have lynch protection, the most prudent thing for us as a whole unit is to at least attempt to lynch him.
Vote: ATPG.

Teehee
I'm going to ignore this whole ATPG thing on purpose for now. And I may switch my vote in the very last minute

Ahahahahaha.

Oh, this is starting to get interesting, now.

I very much like this, sitting back and watching the show. I've no doubt that there is more going on behind the scenes than GH and ATPG have already told us.

And your current ones?
Go get 'im tiger.
Hi there.
So, Renata says that atpg is grabbing for power and landlubber is just plain mafia, you say that atpg vouches for landlubber… am I missing something?
Reminds me of a wrinkled, feeble old man screaming 'POWAH! UN-LIMITED POWAH!'.

Regardless what you feel about my motivations, ATPG clearly needs to be put down immediately.

Tell you what, I'll even pull a Pizza. You lynch him now, if he doesn't come out as scum I will personally lead my own lynch parade. I'll make the writeup three times as epic as the Club 30 one.

I'm convinced vote atpg

Select gh so I can see the epicness. Sorry Seamus for not having a selection tally but Iv been real busy. Gh has a pretty clear majority methinks

vote:atpg
select gh

select: GH

Four more days! Four more days!

This is probably nuthin but a giant scheme these two came up with while dining on Chinese takeout.
AND I LIKE IT!

Unvote; Vote:ATPG

DOWN WITH THE JERSEY PIZZA

I mentioned before that I was working with vig groups. What I didn't say was that ATPG was the one organizing them. I don't doubt that a lot of other people were as well; I don't know who they all are because there were certainly multiple groups doing different things. I was willing to work with ATPG until I got my rogue detective promotion (I'm halfway there), because he was making things happen, but I never fully trusted him either. I know from the game I ran on Giraffe Boards where I'm from that he's perfectly willing to craft elaborate lies to suit his purpose. In that case it was pro-town, but here I'm not so certain. It seems he's fed many different stories to many different people now. I think this PM I got from him supports the idea that he's looking to screw everyone over:

In other words, he really did want to create six rogue detectives, but now I think only to form a hit squad answerable to no one but himself. I suspect he would protect us until we became inconvenient to his plans. I would have turned on you sooner or later, ATPG - looks like it's gonna be sooner.

unvote, vote: ATPG

Unvote,Vote: ATPG, I TRUSTED YOU MAN!!

This is a classic power struggle. Since GH is the director he is using his role to cover himself, since he know that we can't touch him while he is in the role. He is using that as an advantage try and remove a rival. All perfect legal in a game like this, but the fact that so many people are falling for it, is laughable. If GH did this while he was an ordinary citizen, then it would be so much more plausible, but he is using his position of power to try and remove a rival, the fact that he says he will allow himself to die means he is working for someone, s that he is able to take the fall for someone else and it won't hurt them.

An interesting thing to note, sturmhauke, I'm not sure about who else is in your Rogue group, but the name "Vode" refers to the main anti-town role in the game "The Settlement" that was hosted here a few years back. If there isn't anybody who played in that game on your team, I'm sure ATPG would use that as a nice inside joke to himself.

-edit- aaand I just realized that information was already completely divulged in the PM.

You know what?
After ATPG is lynched, we should go ahead and lynch GH.
Just to be sure.

Besides, a little bit of anarchy never hurt anybody, right?

Right?

I don't know either, I wasn't told. I have some guesses, based on who I worked with on previous nights, but I can't be sure. I won't out them in any case.

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