well, the first incitement was succesfull, but sadly they brought the big guns in (not in a way in what they would have teppo or are christian), and crushed it. i also found out the diplomatic penalty only happens if you are unsuccesfull. at first i thought: yay, there is no diplomatic tackle! but then i tried a second time, and i was unsuccesful and they got the penalty.

arigato gozaimasu for all your help with this. with your tips i finaly got satori, and i think i am going to be able to win wars by having my missionary sit down and drink sencha with the few repressed christians in my enemies provinces. of course, i won't sit there without pulling my katana out of the saya, but those pesky rebels suck, and have almost always only a few ashigaru. of course, if a province of my (openly) enemy is unguarded, i'll just conquer it, that will probably be easier.

PS: are you in for a battle sometime? or possibly a mp campaign (i suck at battles :P(now i think of it, campaign would be more fun in my opinion))? my steam account is called thomas.b.b.