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    Default Re: International board, or something, and the mods, and ciao

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Clown View Post
    Ah, so you know how it works? Please enlighten me.
    Already described it, in detail. I've made change happen in large organizations, far larger than the Org, so I have a little bit of experience with this. The steps, assuming you want it laid out.
    1. Establish problem
    2. Establish scope of problem
    3. Try to determine who has a stake in keeping problem around (there's always somebody who benefits from dysfunction)
    4. Avoid those people as you work through this
    5. Determine chain of command/responsibility
    6. Who can I go to who is (a) as high as possible on the food chain and (b) will listen to me?
    7. Determine proposed solution to problem (this is the crucial bit)
    8. Start selling local stakeholders on the solution / build coalition
    9. Avoid people who have a vested interest in keeping dysfunction around while building coalition
    10. Approach the highest person on food chain in the following manner: (a) We have a small problem that does not in any way reflect on you or anybody you care about, (b) here is an easy-to-implement solution that already has a consensus, (c) by implementing this solution you will look like a smart guy, hep cat and savior of the company.

    And as you can imagine, that course of action gets things done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Clown View Post
    I call what you call "leniency" a free pass, as it's not leniency it's way past that.
    And I am astonished that you did not report the post or express your concerns until this thread, where you are leaning on it like an aging one-hit rock band that has a single crowd-pleasing song which needs to be played with an extended instrumental and audience singalong. You think this is entirely about Louis and his mistake; I think that's a dodge at best. Indeed, the fact that you are only able to cite a single example of questionable mod behavior points to the barrenness of your argument. If you were on a board where the mods were running wild (and I've been on a few) you would have hundreds of examples you could reference. You wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a mod abusing his or her powers. But what's your ace in the hole? A non-native English speaker misusing a word for ciggies and gay folks. Weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Clown View Post
    You think a member wants to report a moderator's post if it already has been quoted by moderators? That not something you don't think twice about. If you do it, you're immediately in a bad spotlight.
    Ah, so not only is there an in crowd and an out crowd, there's also a pervasive climate of fear. The Org is a rather wretched place, when looked at from your perspective; kind of like North Korea, but with less starvation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Clown View Post
    Maybe another rule for you:
    MM-hmmmm. Do tell. I do not perceive the inherent value in all of the fuss you have kicked up. From an organizational change perspective, your actions have been ill-conceived, ill-timed and ill-spent. If your goal is to change something, then you have gone about it completely backwards, less like a strategist working on large-scale change and more like an angry kid in a retail store. So from the perspective of (a) something is wrong and (b) I want to fix it, I just don't see how your actions line up.
    Last edited by Lemur; 09-26-2011 at 15:50.

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