Recommend a frog a film?

**Zim** · 09-23-2011, 15:15

He's mostly self centered but he also has a strong belief that children should be "protected" from growing up and being hurt, something he learns to let go of by the end. Despite detesting just about everything he seems to hold a somewhat idealized view of childhood innocence.

Originally Posted by Fragony

'The symbolism is pretty simple in the Catcher and the Rye, at least on the surface (the character has to figure out to let go and let others grow and learn through experience, rather than trying to save them from it). The main character is just so unlikable *shudder*.'

What is he supposed to catch in the rye, I still don't get. He's self-centred why would he save anything he detests everything or is at least observing at best

gah

**Fragony** · 09-23-2011, 16:54

Originally Posted by Zim

He's mostly self centered but he also has a strong belief that children should be "protected" from growing up and being hurt, something he learns to let go of by the end. Despite detesting just about everything he seems to hold a somewhat idealized view of childhood innocence.

I got that part, but what teh hell is with the catching and the rye part. I don't understand the title.

**Zim** · 09-23-2011, 17:01

I didn't see the movie so I can't say for sure if it's brought up. It's also been a long time since I read the book (middle school? That would make it about 17 years or so). I recall he has a recurring dream or fantasy about kids playing in a rye field near a cliff and he catches them when they get too near the edge and almost fall. I checked the wikipedia page for the book and it says the odd imagery of the fantasy is based off of the character mishearing parts of the children's song Comin' Through the Rye. Having been so long since I read the book I can't say for sure about that part.

**Fragony** · 09-23-2011, 17:18

Originally Posted by Zim

I didn't see the movie so I can't say for sure if it's brought up. It's also been a long time since I read the book (middle school? That would make it about 17 years or so). I recall he has a recurring dream or fantasy about kids playing in a rye field near a cliff and he catches them when they get too near the edge and almost fall. I checked the wikipedia page for the book and it says the odd imagery of the fantasy is based off of the character mishearing parts of the children's song Comin' Through the Rye. Having been so long since I read the book I can't say for sure about that part.

Ain't that typical, had to read it for school and make sense of it. Our teachers are sadists, how am I supposed to know American children-songs. But makes sense now, you just gotten a youth-trauma of my back. Pricks

**Strike For The South** · 09-23-2011, 17:22

Lonesome Dove
Tombstone
3:10 To Yuma (new)

ACIN, Your SoCal is showing sweetie

**Fragony** · 09-23-2011, 17:39

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Lonesome Dove
Tombstone
3:10 To Yuma (new)

ACIN, Your SoCal is showing sweetie

If you like westerns watch 'The Proposition', absolutely incredible movie. Rediculously violent but I'm sure you don't mind.

Technically it's not a western as it's set in aussiland but still