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    @Ronin And if you are suspect of a crime, police is sure you did it but they can't proof it, no thx. Prosecuters tend to 'make' a case. Plenty examples of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    @Ronin And if you are suspect of a crime, police is sure you did it but they can't proof it, no thx. Prosecuters tend to 'make' a case. Plenty examples of that.
    zero reported cases of such a thing happening over here don´t give me cause for alarm....there have been a couple of cases of interrogations getting kinda "heated" let's say...but nothing as clever and sophisticated as you are suggesting.
    on the other hand look at the number of prisoners in the united states being cleared while they are sitting in death row....and they don´t have ID cards.
    If a state wants to **** you over I hardly thing the existence or not of a small card with some bio data is the thing that is gonna make a difference.
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    If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

    Bollox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

    Bollox.
    If you have nothing to hide you have a boring life. Thing is the people who want to know where you were what you did how you got there and with who, often do have boring lifes. Piss of with your databases

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    Germany doesn't have ID cards, we have personnel cards (Personalausweis), some say this and the fact there is some strange artwork on the back that can be interpreted as the head of a goat means we are all considered personnel of the NWO/devil. Oh and there's a pyramid as well, so make that NWO/devil/freemasons/illuminati.

    This is how far we have come, an entire nation enslaved by the cards that they carry, meanwhile, people continue to use credit cards and participate in cashback programs etc.

    As Ronin already said, there are enough countries that don't have ID cards where the government oppresses and jails innocent people and enough that do have ID cards where this is not the case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Germany doesn't have ID cards, we have personnel cards (Personalausweis), some say this and the fact there is some strange artwork on the back that can be interpreted as the head of a goat means we are all considered personnel of the NWO/devil. Oh and there's a pyramid as well, so make that NWO/devil/freemasons/illuminati.

    This is how far we have come, an entire nation enslaved by the cards that they carry, meanwhile, people continue to use credit cards and participate in cashback programs etc.

    As Ronin already said, there are enough countries that don't have ID cards where the government oppresses and jails innocent people and enough that do have ID cards where this is not the case.
    it's a common law thing; not wanted in britain.

    if you like your ID cards by all means keep them, but not here, no thanks.

    this is a public service broadcast from your resident xenophobe and hyper-nationalist with racist, militaristic, populist, and autarkic tendencies
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    Default Re: Proof of what a national ID service is good for.

    lol, sorry, who were those "lots" of British people who agree and consent to use compulsory ID cards?

    i ask because i am having trouble identifying them................
    You missed my other post. The fact we have these other cards already and that this is merger of all these different details in one handy form.

    But during the whole thing, people were like "I don't really want ID cards, same with all these others cards we are given, but attempting to force these on us, removing our liberty and forcing us to pay for them as well?! Madness".


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    this is a public service broadcast from your resident hyper-nationalist autarkic racist
    Sorry for off-topic, but racist? I never thought of you as such or I never thought you revelled in such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If you have nothing to hide you have a boring life. Thing is the people who want to know where you were what you did how you got there and with who, often do have boring lifes. Piss of with your databases
    I have nothing to hide....I have a few things I would be embarrassed of....but nothing I must hide :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    I have nothing to hide....I have a few things I would be embarrassed of....but nothing I must hide :P
    Oh common it's perfectly awesome to be photographed with a pornqueen. I only think about how these fingerprints and probably DNA soon can be used against me, by people who can, it doesn't improve my mood. Databases can be hacked, DNA is in your hair, and fingerprints can be faked. I don't trust people with it being possible. Nurse here got life in prison because she was supposedly a serial-killer, if you would read up on how things went you would probably understand my position a little better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Oh common it's perfectly awesome to be photographed with a pornqueen.
    I'm not embarrassed of that one....I damn near have it in my curriculum vitae :P
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