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    Quote Originally Posted by Kival View Post
    However it does make sense that romans and carthies can recrui them as rofessional soldiers earlier because they had the money to equip whole units with chainmail. The gauls lacked the infrastructure for that.
    That does sound logical, but the Celtic warriors serving Rome did so either as allied forces (i.e. raised and equipped in their traditional manner) or, lateron, as part of the Roman army (as Auxilla or legionaries). The Romans never imposed a "professional" standard on their Celtic allies.

    Secondly, aren't Brihentin made up of nobility rather than paid soldiers?
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    That does sound logical, but the Celtic warriors serving Rome did so either as allied forces (i.e. raised and equipped in their traditional manner) or, lateron, as part of the Roman army (as Auxilla or legionaries). The Romans never imposed a "professional" standard on their Celtic allies.
    Agreed.

    Isn't it likely to be the case, though, that Gauls who willingly co-operated and traded with Rome became richer than other Gauls who did not? Rome had a taste for Celtic goods long before the conquest of Gaul. Perhaps being a Roman ally was very profitable for a Gallic tribe, during the 'honeymoon period' while Rome still valued the tribe as an ally and trading partner and couldn't yet spare the military power to simply crush them and enslave them?

    So perhaps certain Gallic tribes allied to Rome were richer and could afford better equipment for their elite warriors.

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    More likely the team made decision to have them as reform units because otherwise the gauls would employ them in unrealistic numbers during early game.

    I expect that in EB2 the neitos and brihentin like units are recruitable from the start, but they will regenerate/increase really slowly on the recruitment pool. Afterall it wasn't like the aedui or averni couldn't employ such equipped units it's more of a matter of numbers.
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    Actually gauls already are able to use brihentin and neitos in small numbers from the star (or short afterwards for neitos): They are he bodyguard units of the gauls and the allied gaul general. I think it's as well represtented this way as far as possible in the rome engine. If the quote is true, romans and carthaginians used neitos in big numbers earlier than the gauls for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    That does sound logical, but the Celtic warriors serving Rome did so either as allied forces (i.e. raised and equipped in their traditional manner) or, lateron, as part of the Roman army (as Auxilla or legionaries). The Romans never imposed a "professional" standard on their Celtic allies.
    Perhaps I should just quote the unit descrition to give an better impression what I mean:

    Gallic auxilia and allies, of both Rome and Carthage, were actually employed in this manner before such soldiers were used widely by the Gauls themselves. The Romans did this to ensure their Gallic allies and auxilia had an edge over the Gallic warriors they engaged, and Carthaginians re-outfitted their Boii allies after Cannae in this manner. The Romans did this to ensure their Gallic allies and auxilia had an edge over the Gallic warriors they engaged, and Carthaginians re-outfitted their Boii allies after Cannae in this manner.
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    Secondly, aren't Brihentin made up of nobility rather than paid soldiers?
    I was mostly speaking about Neitos, Brihentin could be seen as representing allied nobel forces (though I'm not really sure If they were all nobles). My point for Brihentin was that the gauls have them in big numbers from the start: as bodyguards.

    PS: I'm sorry for some missing leters, my keyboard seems to have some problems.

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