Quote Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey View Post
I'm done with this game. The cheating has left me sick to my stomach and I have no appetite to continue because everything is so messed up.

I think the fairest outcome is a joint victory for me and NB, because I think I've been the most disadvantaged by the cheating, but I'm really past caring now.
Well, I would say zim and degaura perhaps suffered the worst, with you probably a bit ahead of me.

But I don't see much point in trying to sort everything out.
I do need about 4 provinces now after the last turn of Denmark, but those will come in only a couple of turns, and that will give me a victory by conquest from SS itself.

I would be willing to continue for fun, but as to actual victory conditions it is pretty much a forgone conclusion. phonics and myself are not in competition, we have aided each-other, and we have no reason whatsoever to go against each-other now. It just wouldn't make sense with how we have played this whole game so far. Even if there are no formal allied victory conditions, I think we could let it stand as a gentleman's agreement.

As I said though, I am willing to continue if others want to, although I would prefer to get new games going.

I have an interesting idea for a game where crusades could actually be used. I won't go into much detail, but the concept would be only catholic factions are playable. While restrictive, it would put everyone on equals terms as to crusading, and could really change the game up a lot with everyone trying to stay clean with the pope so as to not be destroyed by a crusade.