The Sands of Time - MoT diplomacy thread

[Nightbringer]

Hmm, and I thought you said you were reasonable. You sound more bloodthirsty to me.

[RexLegend]

Our minds and swords are with our Lithuanian and Kievan brothers, who have joined to our cause in defense of Old World agains Muslim invaders. May Old gods of Lithuania and our common god of Kievan grant them strength to withstand and drive out hordes of infidels. And may God have mercy on Sicilians, who suffer heavy casualities from both sides.

Recent victories have made King of Scandinavia to bring out his plans. We lay the claim on entire Britannia, to bring back to life the Knut's North Sea Empire and fulfil the Nordic goals of old. We are asking King Ralph to cede all his territories to Nordic possession and leave last territory of London without garrison. We promise no harm to local people then. If you refuse, then take up your arms and show what you've got!

Dear Fārūq Zulficar, complaining about others being bloodthirsty is ridiculous. Do you really think Kievans should sit and do nothing while Fatimids are on rampage? If so, European winters and summers have done no good for you.

[phonicsmonkey]

Ibn-Battutah rises to address the Kievan representative.

We are disappointed, if not surprised, at your cowardly attack on our holdings in northern Anatolia. Your pretext is risible - it was clear from your military and naval buildup and your lack of response to our diplomacy that you were planning to attack us and would seize on any flimsy opportunity to do so.

It matters not, inshallah the new Caliph Ja'afar will lead the armies of Islam to our ultimate victory. That is, unless you see sense - the door is still open for peace should you withdraw from our lands immediately and engage in talks regarding a new treaty.

[Mithridate]

Ibn-Battutah rises to address the Kievan representative.

We are disappointed, if not surprised, at your cowardly attack on our holdings in northern Anatolia. Your pretext is risible - it was clear from your military and naval buildup and your lack of response to our diplomacy that you were planning to attack us and would seize on any flimsy opportunity to do so.

It matters not, inshallah the new Caliph Ja'afar will lead the armies of Islam to our ultimate victory. That is, unless you see sense - the door is still open for peace should you withdraw from our lands immediately and engage in talks regarding a new treaty.

Turning once again to face the fatmid

Your accusations are laughable, only fools and weaklings fears what is untrue, we are neither. As to your "offer"...

Spitting a phlegm on some velvets hanging from the walls

That should match the blood on your floor, its meaning equally clear. We are simple perhaps brutal men, but men of honor nonetheless... Our word is iron.

[Nightbringer]

Turning once again to face the fatmid

Your accusations are laughable, only fools and weaklings fears what is untrue, we are neither. As to your "offer"...

Spitting a phlegm on some velvets hanging from the walls

That should match the blood on your floor, its meaning equally clear. We are simple perhaps brutal men, but men of honor nonetheless... Our word is iron.

Ah! Men of honor who actually spit on fine velvet! Next you'll be saying you are a man of refinement who has been forced into the barbarity of war by the "infidels."

[Mithridate]

Ah! Men of honor who actually spit on fine velvet! Next you'll be saying you are a man of refinement who has been forced into the barbarity of war by the "infidels."

The Kievan is no longer present, nor any representative.

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Honor has an interesting relationship with manners, the japanese spit on the floor when they eat in accordance with their manners yet do you know more honorable people? Interesting how they backstabbed eachother and broke words though in the time of samurai... furthermore how the "mainstream arab" kill sisters over "honor" while they never hurt guests in their homes for any reason, but outside even if theyre innocent and defenseless in the name of religion... with no remorse.

Breaking ones word is however viewed dishonorable, anywhere you go. Spitting was twofold symbolic, the fatmid no longer have any honor to the kievan and are thereby not worthy of any respect :) They are strong, and worthy enemies however. We go to war because we said we would should he continue to dishonor and violate the NAP

Honor differ in all parts of the world :) True honor is measured in character imho, furthermore in action and inaction folly or not. For us it would have been better to attack when he first violated the nap, yet we waited as we where bound by our word and only truly free after "we will attack if you do not honor the agreements terms"

[Nightbringer]

The Kievan is no longer present, nor any representative.

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Honor has an interesting relationship with manners, the japanese spit on the floor when they eat in accordance with their manners yet do you know more honorable people? Interesting how they backstabbed eachother and broke words though in the time of samurai... furthermore how the "mainstream arab" kill sisters over "honor" while they never hurt guests in their homes for any reason, but outside even if theyre innocent and defenseless in the name of religion... with no remorse.

Breaking ones word is however viewed dishonorable, anywhere you go. Spitting was twofold symbolic, the fatmid no longer have any honor to the kievan and are thereby not worthy of any respect :) They are strong, and worthy enemies however. We go to war because we said we would should he continue to dishonor and violate the NAP

Honor differ in all parts of the world :) True honor is measured in character imho, furthermore in action and inaction folly or not. For us it would have been better to attack when he first violated the nap, yet we waited as we where bound by our word and only truly free after "we will attack if you do not honor the agreements terms"

Ha, so he has fled before his filth spewing mouth was shut for him by the guards. Ah well, at least the smell will improve.

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Just supporting my ally here, honor is subjective in the extreme to be sure, and I don't mean anything OOC