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    Standing Up For Rationality Senior Member Ronin's Avatar
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    Default Re: Support for Gun Control in US at its Lowest Level in More than 50 Years

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    ... Though you have to admit that might partially be explained by lack of inhabited buildings and richer pickings elsewhere?
    ..and a certain....let's call it proclivity not to report a possible break in to the police....not with that science project going on in the back room.
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    Default Re: Support for Gun Control in US at its Lowest Level in More than 50 Years

    none of you are from appalachia or have ever been there.

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    I've had some cases in Appalachia. They are harder to solve because of lack of dental records and the the DNA being the same.

    Good point about the disparity in population clusters, however the home invasion distribution should stay relatively the same per capita, which it is not. It is lower.

    While I get the meth lab joke, to sya that people don't call the cops because they are up to something illegal is factually incorrect. In fact, if it were correct, it would hurt the anti-gun angle because it is suggesting that the people using guns are people who are multi-faceted criminals, which enfordces the pro-gun argument that the people who obtain and use guns legally are not the ones at fualt: it's the criminals.

    A lot of people don't call the police for a lot of reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    none of you are from appalachia or have ever been there.
    true..but I didn´t want to mention that because it might sound like I was bragging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    none of you are from appalachia or have ever been there.
    I'm from there. And at home, I haven't ever been a victim of a crime, nor have I come across meth. Though my dad does have a few guns and we've occasionally used them.

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    I want everyone who is not too insane and doesn't have a serious criminal record to be armed to the teeth at all times. I believe in this more and more as I get older, which is counter intuitive.
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    To be honest, part of me is actually serious about wanting guns so that a zombie outbreak is thwarted, if one ever arises. Even though I know the traditional scientific explanation of zombies is impossible.


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    Wooooo!!!

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    I was less concerned with the shootings in the clips and more irritated by the presenter’s tone of casual, satisfied, Bible lesson speech. He was almost purring when he said:

    “identified as a drifter with an extensive criminal past. But when he tried to take an officer’s life, he ensured he would have no future!”

    His tone simply tosses away the whole gravitas of recording a person trying to kill another and dying in the attempt and makes it all into a sort of perverse, self-righteous “live gun porn”. Is that how these events are picked up on and disseminated in the US?



    Moreover, since the bit of moral outrage above is not reason enough to warrant a post, I do have a dilemma.
    Now, I should first add that I hold no clear stand for or against and I do not wish to involve myself in the thread per se.
    Still, while the legalisation of weapons may not contribute to the crime rate in the sense that those weapons are actually used in criminal activities, I can’t see how they are not building up the phenomenon. When you commit the crime you may use an illegal weapon, yet you can very easily pre-train with their legal counterparts. A whole infrastructure is put in place, teaching you their potential and how to handle every calibre; instructors, shooting ranges, weapon shows allowing you to intimately understand what would suit your needs. Hell, children are in some cases tutored by their own parents, who are under the impression the kids need this sort of life-lesson. Thus when you actually wish to commit said crime, you know exactly what you’re after and how it feels to employ it; not only does it come that much easier to you to pursue that path, but it may even cross your mind solely because you are so familiar with the possibilities different types of guns open up to you. Over a few decades, the whole culture is transformed into... well, what you chaps have in the US at the moment. That’s where one of my small quandaries on the matter springs from at least.


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