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    Master of useless knowledge Senior Member Kitten Shooting Champion, Eskiv Champion Ironside's Avatar
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    Default Re: Support for Gun Control in US at its Lowest Level in More than 50 Years

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    Neither! It means I'm enjoying this. Its a fun debate. I just brain-farted on how to spell breech (breach?).

    And the product of this debate is that we now have a better understanding of the cultural difference here. You have different priorities, but at the core you have the same democratic values that put the safety and wellfare of the people above that of the leaders. Where we differ is how to go about it, and even then not by much. The biggest difference is that I see danger as being much more imminent than you do. Whether that's a product of cultural difference or personal difference is hard to discern, but it would need a whole new debate: How bad is it? Just how imminent is social collapse, to one degree or another?
    I think the big difference is how much the system is based on trust. Here and I think in Germany (we're quite similar) it's a much higher trust in the goverment and the faceless bureacrat and even the crook isn't supposed to be going that far.

    The US? The corrupt goverment robs you, the bureacrat screws you and the crook is going into your house guns blazing. According to some.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Default Re: Support for Gun Control in US at its Lowest Level in More than 50 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    ...The US? The corrupt goverment robs you, the bureacrat screws you and the crook is going into your house guns blazing. According to some.
    Which is why the crook needs to die. It'll brighten my day.
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