Org Minecraft Server

[Greyblades]

Wierd, entire trees explode once you take out one of their blocks.

Edit: Ok what the heck is with all these penned animals? What have you guys been doing on that server?

[spankythehippo]

Wierd, entire trees explode once you take out one of their blocks.

Edit: Ok what the heck is with all these penned animals? What have you guys been doing on that server?

The trees exploding is TreeAssist. If you cut down the bottom log of a tree with an axe, all the wood blocks drop.

Regarding those animals... I can't say anything, since I'm also a culprit.

[Greyblades]

There's like, 20 animals penned into each meter squared. It looks like the PETA HQ.

[TinCow]

Large numbers of animals are required for mass farming of resources. Sheep are needed for wool and cattle are needed for leather. Any project that requires large amounts of wool blocks or bookshelves will need equally large numbers of animals. Pigs and chickens aren't good for much these days other than food (arrows are more easily obtained from the various xp farms), but some of us keep them as well for those purposes.

[Greyblades]

Ok, but there doesnt seem to be any lack of pigs cows and chickens running around all over the place, they keep falling down my mine shaft and I even found a sheep wandering around a chasm I found just over the bedrock level.

The server seems to be lagging out for some reason, when I join I walk a few steps and with each step I loose 10 frames untill it stops alltogether, I suspect it might have something to do with the out of control animal population.

[BSmith]

My MC name is BSmith1068

[Vladimir]

So if we download 1.6 can I retrograde and play it on a server running an earlier version?

[Sigurd]

Ok, but there doesnt seem to be any lack of pigs cows and chickens running around all over the place, they keep falling down my mine shaft and I even found a sheep wandering around a chasm I found just over the bedrock level.

The server seems to be lagging out for some reason, when I join I walk a few steps and with each step I loose 10 frames untill it stops alltogether, I suspect it might have something to do with the out of control animal population.

Yeah.. there seems to be an infestation of farm animals everywhere. The n00b hotel is full of pigs, cattle, sheep and chickens.

My castle grounds is usually serenity... today I found it like this:

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No lags on my end BTW.

[TinCow]

Yeah.. there seems to be an infestation of farm animals everywhere. The n00b hotel is full of pigs, cattle, sheep and chickens.

This sounds like a Bukkit bug. I'll take a look at it when I get home. Massive numbers of animals can also cause server lag, so they could be related. Once I fix this I will roll back the overworld map to remove the animals.

This is issue is at least partially due to the new server, I don't have direct control over which JAR we're running at the moment and have been experimenting with various setups. This is one of the reasons I needed some more testing time and didn't promise not to overwrite any work just yet. I'll get the situation sorted out though, our new hosts are (so far) very helpful and responsive.

[edit]Hosts have given me direct control over the jar, so we shouldn't run into this issue again.

[edit2]Server changed over to the lastest RB from the busted DB we were using before. Restoring the overworld to its state prior to the animal orgy now, it will be back online again in about 30 mins.

[Papewaio]

Tincow saves our bacon from the poultry excuse of a server left a-jar.

[Greyblades]

Well I've lost all my stuff and I spawned in a lava chamber without any walkways, but I have to say the server is working alot better now.

[Vladimir]

I logged on for the first time in forever and enjoyed it.

[BSmith]

I’d like to build a masonic temple in our city… as it stands I see two options:

1. Use one of the upper floors of the buildings already built behind the hotel. The layout is not perfect (need and E/W layout with entrance on the W side) but could be managed with a minor move of an interior staircase. The top floor on any of the buildings could work.

Question is – are there any objections to using one of these buildings for this purpose?

2. Build a new building from scratch just for the lodge. A good site would be on the far side of the capitol. This would take much more time and effort – but would be a new building for the city.

Question here is – are the building materials I have seen in many of the chests around town up for grabs, or would I need to procure my own materials?

What option does everyone think is best?

Also - does anyone have an enchanting table I could use, or the materials to build one? That would be perfect for the altar in the middle of the room.

[TinCow]

Well I've lost all my stuff and I spawned in a lava chamber without any walkways, but I have to say the server is working alot better now.

Sorry about that. I'll reimburse you, just let me know what you lost.

Question is – are there any objections to using one of these buildings for this purpose?

The floors of all of those buildings are free for anyone to develop as they see fit. If you're willing to do the work on them, go nuts.

Question here is – are the building materials I have seen in many of the chests around town up for grabs, or would I need to procure my own materials?

The chests in front of the town hall contain materials donated for use by anyone developing the town, so feel free to use whatever you want. There are also more chests with items in the Boiler Room of the town hall, which is accessed by a trap door in the floor on the left side of the entryway. The chest on the Space Needle plot are my own resources that I transported there for construction of that building. I don't remember what's there, but you're welcome to use whatever you want. There are also basic resources available in the Noob Hotel which were placed there specifically to help people get started on the server.

What option does everyone think is best?

New buildings are always more impressive IMO, but they're also a lot more work so I think that decision is more up to you.

Also - does anyone have an enchanting table I could use, or the materials to build one? That would be perfect for the altar in the middle of the room.

Sure, I'll supply one for you, just let me know where to drop it off. Alternatively, you're welcome to take the materials from my workroom if you don't mind the hike out there.

[BSmith]

Thanks! I have a room at the hotel on the first level of rooms. You could just drop it there if you are in the neighborhood.

I have an issue though. It seems that the game locks up for me (or otherwise has serious lag) when I go too far East. I have repeated this by going down the steps to the East of the space needle a couple of times (died there once). Just after going down the steps, bang! insurmountable lag. This happens to me a little farther South as well earlier, but I haven't been back there to replicate exactly where it happens.

Thoughts on what might be happening?

Normally I have a little lag (every few seconds it will skip) even though I ping the server at ~116ms.

Server shows full to almost full signal.

Are there any settings on my end that may be impacting this? If I play a single player game it is smooth as glass.

[TinCow]

I have no idea what could cause that, but I'll look into it when I get home in a few hours.

[Nigel]

This sounds very similar to a problem I had some weeks ago.
It went away after a while. Well, therother restarted the server, but I dont know if we can say that that did the trick or if it was something else. But in any case, the symptoms sound familiar.

On a different note:
Do we still hope that we can recover the safegame from the old server before TinCows contract expires on the 6th? If so, we may wait just a few more days before starting a mayor building project.

[TinCow]

When I logged on the dance floor in the disco was on, and that causes major lag. That was likely the problem. I love the thing, but it's not something that should be left on permanently, so make sure you always turn it off after you're done playing around in there.

Do we still hope that we can recover the safegame from the old server before TinCows contract expires on the 6th? If so, we may wait just a few more days before starting a mayor building project.

I am not optimistic at this point.

[BSmith]

Ironically I think it was me that left the disco on....

Unfortunately I probably wont be able to play for a week or so to see if that was the problem.

[Greyblades]

Do me a favour and backup the files before you do so, I dont want to end up losing yet another base.

[Sigurd]

[RANT]
Damnable... I would really like to send these goons a few expletives. It’s so unacceptable that I have difficulties to decide just which level of incompetence they belong under.
I have a sneaky feeling they are the new generation.
It’s telling that I am getting old, complaining on the young and their sheer disrespect for established etiquette. I don’t care - Someone should just slap these loiters over the head.. GTF back to work.

I feel like I have lost months worth of work. It’s not something easily replaced.
I look at my tools and realize they are of old worn out stock. Where are the hours spent gathering exp and renewing them? Where are the new fantastic tools I made – those with lucky enhancements?
Where are the new floors in the square keep? The removed and remodeled staircases are still there, unfinished.
The freshly built walls and ceilings are simply not there… untold stacks of sheared wool are still sitting on grass eating backs.
The last efforts to mine resources are lost in time and the stuff gathered are still sitting in the bedrock.

And people are spending time on an old snapshot of the server, making it increasingly difficult to move back to the what-should-be-the-current game.

It’s depressing.
[/RANT]

My wife just pulled Elise off Minecraft.
We were on the roof of the square keep shooting mobs with bow and arrow, when we were ambushed by zombies. My fantastic bow, takes down most mobs with one shot, but Elise got pushed off the roof and died, apparently that scared her to the degree that she had trouble sleeping last night.
I recovered her gear as I thought that was what she was worried about. But apparently she is still a little too young to let such things go.
Yeah.. you fall off stuff and die, but you're back on your feet and can continue in a beat... the real loss is if you can't recover your gear.
I am like: get back up on that horse... let's not make this a traumatic incident. Learn and move on. My wife is unfortunately of the more protective type.
I am not gonna debate a mother with cubs... that is just insane. I have talked it through with Elise, explaining that it is to be expected to have such incidents and that all is ok. We recovered all her stuff and there was really no loss.

[Papewaio]

Ironically I think it was me that left the disco on....

Unfortunately I probably wont be able to play for a week or so to see if that was the problem.

So suicide by disco ball. Sounds like something out of Get Smart.

[TinCow]

[RANT]
Damnable... I would really like to send these goons a few expletives. It’s so unacceptable that I have difficulties to decide just which level of incompetence they belong under.
I have a sneaky feeling they are the new generation.
It’s telling that I am getting old, complaining on the young and their sheer disrespect for established etiquette. I don’t care - Someone should just slap these loiters over the head.. GTF back to work.

I feel like I have lost months worth of work. It’s not something easily replaced.
I look at my tools and realize they are of old worn out stock. Where are the hours spent gathering exp and renewing them? Where are the new fantastic tools I made – those with lucky enhancements?
Where are the new floors in the square keep? The removed and remodeled staircases are still there, unfinished.
The freshly built walls and ceilings are simply not there… untold stacks of sheared wool are still sitting on grass eating backs.
The last efforts to mine resources are lost in time and the stuff gathered are still sitting in the bedrock.

And people are spending time on an old snapshot of the server, making it increasingly difficult to move back to the what-should-be-the-current game.

It’s depressing.
[/RANT]

It gets better.

I had to rebuild the entire Arena. THE ENTIRE ARENA. That was an actual month of work, not just two weeks. Take my word for it, it goes MUCH faster with creative mode. Frankly, I'm prepared to declare the old server a total lost cause now so if you'd like I can give you access to creative to make your repairs now. I'm going to need to do the same, as a lost all of the improvements I made to the outside of the Arena, as well as a lot of interior decorating in my lair.

[Sigurd]

It gets better.

I had to rebuild the entire Arena. THE ENTIRE ARENA. That was an actual month of work, not just two weeks. Take my word for it, it goes MUCH faster with creative mode. Frankly, I'm prepared to declare the old server a total lost cause now so if you'd like I can give you access to creative to make your repairs now. I'm going to need to do the same, as a lost all of the improvements I made to the outside of the Arena, as well as a lot of interior decorating in my lair.

Right... so what are the rules while in creative mode? Just redo what you lost and fill up the coffers with the materials you dug out of the castle (I removed a lot of stone floors and rebuilt new in wood)?

[TinCow]

Right... so what are the rules while in creative mode? Just redo what you lost and fill up the coffers with the materials you dug out of the castle (I removed a lot of stone floors and rebuilt new in wood)?

Do whatever you feel is appropriate to replace what was lost, including rebuilding and replacing lost materials. It does not need to be precise and if for some reason the final result is a bit different than it was before that's perfectly fine. The point is to make replacing what was lost as painless as possible. Just let me know when you're finished and I'll disable the mode. If it helps, I started using creative this morning to replace the work I lost around the Arena and in my lair.

@Sigurd You should have the ability to use creative mode now. To turn it on, just type /gamemode c and to turn it off type /gamemode s. Let me know if that doesn't work. Also, let me know whenever you're done replacing what was lost.

[Vladimir]

Sigurd. Thanks for building the safe rail line. I'll copy it for my long Nether trips.

[Sigurd]

Sigurd. Thanks for building the safe rail line. I'll copy it for my long Nether trips.

If you put your line past ghasts in the open.. you need to protect the line in a tunnel or similar... they destroy the tracks under the half-slabs

[Vladimir]

If you put your line past ghasts in the open.. you need to protect the line in a tunnel or similar... they destroy the tracks under the half-slabs

I've enclosed my rail line so that shouldn't be a problem.

[TinCow]

FYI, the old host suspended my account promptly this morning for failure to pay my bill. Such a shame that they couldn't be so prompt with service requests. In any case, that's the final word on recovering the work that was lost.

[TinCow]

Server updated to a dev build of 1.6.1. This is more likely to be buggy than a Beta or RB, so please let me know if you see something odd. So far, MobCatcher and RebalanceVillagers are not compatible with this version, so they are temporarily disabled. WorldBorder works, but it's having issues with horses and boats, so please do not go near the world border on a horse or in a boat for now. A fix for WorldBorder is expected soon.

[edit] The server had noticeable lag after the upgrade, and I believe it was caused by the new version of Dynmap. I have thus rolled Dynmap back to the old 1.5.2 version and the server feels smoother again. I will keep Dynmap at the old version until the dev fixes this issue, which means that the new blocks in 1.6 won't display properly on the map until then.

[edit2] I was experiencing a fair amount of 'sluggish' lag on the server. My video drivers were only about 3 months old, but updating them made a huge difference and the game now runs very smoothly for me. This is probably related to the major texture pack overhaul that was included in 1.6. If anyone else feels like they're moving through molasses when they're playing, try updating your drivers.