Org Minecraft Server

[Sigurd]

I was thinking of keeping the collection point (i.e. where the hoppers/Nether Portal are) as close to the spawning platform as possible. With the amount of iron produced, I could then build a silo that extends all the way to the bottom via piggybacked hoppers and chests. That way, I wouldn't have to build an item elevator. The centre of the scraper will be solid to house the chests. With some clever placement of iron doors and decorative crap, the massive slab of stone in the middle could be made to look like an elevator (which doesn't work, of course). If I recall correctly, there isn't a Nether Portal in the immediate vicinity. The closest would the one outside Diain's castle.

The shaft that the iron golems fall through could be as long as the scraper.. Just saying.
I have had problems with nether portals being too close and mixing up the transitions. You go into one and come out a different one than you are supposed to.
Careful placement will negate this.

I have about 7 double chests of sand. I can also make about 8 double chests of smooth stone. So yeah, we might need a bit more.
With some rough calculations, we can gauge how much stone we need.
Farm is 45 x 45 (I think). Let's say that the building itself will be 90 x 90.
90 x 90 = 360 block perimeter per meter of altitude.
360 x 131(rough height of the building)= 47160 blocks
8 double chests equates to 32768. Yeah, a bit more mining and we should be fine. I'd say another 4-5 double chests would do it.

Not sure how much is needed of glass and stone... but "a lot" is probably a fair estimate

Are there any other materials we need to stock up on besides stone and glass?
I might build an industrial furnace in the area. I'll try and put it in a convenient location so it might be permanent.

We would need a little bit of iron (duh) and quartz for ornamental parts.


I have been working on a design for the scraper... And I would imagine this close to what we can get according to the restrictions of the farm on top.
The spire might need some work.. maybe lowering the top windows a bit to make the design work better.
The number of glass panes pr floor could be extended. In the picture it is about 4 panes vertical pr floor.

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Which would be the top part of the original:

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[Makrell]

Can i get whitelisted?

Ive played tons of minecraft before, all of it on the twc server(now minecraftcenter) Since alpha after the halloween update, love the game, would love to org it up a bit.

Im a shipbuilder by trade.

[TinCow]

Can i get whitelisted?

Ive played tons of minecraft before, all of it on the twc server(now minecraftcenter) Since alpha after the halloween update, love the game, would love to org it up a bit.

Im a shipbuilder by trade.

Certainly. What's your game name?

[Nigel]

As I was wandering around the lands today, I found a riderless horse near the area of Csargo's Gate.

She is a real beauty - yellow coloured, two rows of hearts strong and fully saddled up and with golden armour.
Far too valuable to be left just wandering around.

I have taken her to the communal stables behind the Central Station / Space Needle and placed a note saying that she is looking for her rightful owner. Whoever has lost her, can go and pick her up there.


And of course: Wellcome Makrell

[BSmith]

Can i get whitelisted?

Ive played tons of minecraft before, all of it on the twc server(now minecraftcenter) Since alpha after the halloween update, love the game, would love to org it up a bit.

Im a shipbuilder by trade.

Welcome! We need a harbor and by extension some more ships. Once you get in the game let me know if there is anything you need.

[spankythehippo]

The shaft that the iron golems fall through could be as long as the scraper.. Just saying.

Yeah, I thought about that, but if the piggybacked hopper chests are used, the iron can slink its way all the way down to ground level. It would require a lot more iron, so this would need to be done when the farm is fully operational.

Not sure how much is needed of glass and stone... but "a lot" is probably a fair estimate

Yeah, that calculation did not factor in how much stone is needed for the floor. It was only for the skeleton of the structure. The floor is gonna be the biggest consumer of stone.

We would need a little bit of iron (duh) and quartz for ornamental parts.

Quartz... damn. I barely have any of that stuff.

I have been working on a design for the scraper... And I would imagine this close to what we can get according to the restrictions of the farm on top.
The spire might need some work.. maybe lowering the top windows a bit to make the design work better.
The number of glass panes pr floor could be extended. In the picture it is about 4 panes vertical pr floor.

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Which would be the top part of the original:

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The design looks good. Does the spire go all the way up the the height limit?

[TinCow]

The design looks good. Does the spire go all the way up the the height limit?

It looks so good I'll have to stop playing EU4 to help with it.

FYI, I'm out of town from tomorrow through next Monday. So, if the Bukkit update comes out in that time I'm not going to be able to install it.

[Sigurd]

Yeah... we might need a few hands to help assemble this thing. It is quite tedious and repetitive. edit: Yeah the spire goes all the way to the max build height.

Update on design:
The lowest tier in the image is the main body of the scraper (should be quite long), but we have only about 145 block height to work on. There is supposed to be another tier closer to the bottom before the base structure which is a larger rectangular structure and might take all the space outlined on the last map suggestions.

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Looking up.

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Closer look at the design.

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[Makrell]

Certainly. What's your game name?

Makrell92

[TinCow]

Makrell92

You are now whitelisted.

[Sigurd]

I have taken a few measurements...

The area in the red rectangle in the image is 81x52 blocks

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So far the design I am making takes 73x65 blocks.... which needless to say will be too big for the area chosen. I have placed a pink cross on the exact middle spot of the proposed area. I don't think the structure can grow more towards the main road to the arena.
The only expansion possible is over the current spawn and towards dain's castle entrance/train station.

What do you guys think? I will need to fine calculate how big the foot print needs too look good, but we might experience a serious growth towards those areas. And we need to place the exact center of the building for the farm.

[Beskar]

Remember, they said about destroying the old spawn area, so moving closer to the Arena is possible, Sigurd!

[Makrell]

got on, went out a building, found a chest with stuff, were they free? it stod thanks tincow on a sign next to it?

[BSmith]

Not sure offhand. There is free stuff in the noob hotel just east of the spawn. Other chests in town (by the town hall) have building materials that can be used for town improvements.

[Makrell]

lol, found the noob hotel, just had to take the railstaion, and it is even visible form spawn :D

[Sigurd]

I think I have figured out how best to proceed with the farm "cloak".

We need a slimmer version of the building as it looked ridiculous with the current width. (was about 1/3 of the length it needs to resemble the original). But the 45x45 farm does pose a challenge as it is quite big for a roof.

This is what I have come up with and placed on the server - check the map (in blocks):
Farm coating : 47x47 (purple)
Ledge & top floor : 49x49 (pink)
First tier: 53x53 (blue)
Second tier 57x57 (pink)
(optional) Corner tiers 61x61 (blue)
Base structure 81x67 (purple)
Property size : 81x77 (red)

How will the building look like?:

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Property - red rectangle (will be plazafied)
Base structure - purple
Third tiers - green
Second tier - pink
First tier - turquise
Top tier and farm - image

started with new measurements.

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[Ishmael]

Looks great to me. I'll be happy to assist whenever construction starts. Would you have an order of magnitude estimate for the materials requirements?

[Sigurd]

Looks great to me. I'll be happy to assist whenever construction starts. Would you have an order of magnitude estimate for the materials requirements?

Well... we need a crap load of glass and smooth stone.
I have used stained glass which require ink sacks. (light gray and black stained glass)
About 10 stacks of nether quartz blocks - mostly used as stairs for decoration.

But the farm will be built first and we could perhaps incorporate some iron blocks into the design (instead of the half slabs?).

[newO_ajniN]

As I was wandering around the lands today, I found a riderless horse near the area of Csargo's Gate.

I was having a problem where they were pushing through my fence. I lost a few and took this one back - thanks. The others are up for grabs if they are found.

[TinCow]

The server appears to be down and I am having issues trying to reboot it through iOS. I have opened a support ticket.

[BSmith]

I take it things are still down?

[Tamur]

Appears so...

[TinCow]

I am home now and will start pursuing this as aggressively as I can. I really hope we don't end up with another problem host situation, these guys were so good up until this point.

[newO_ajniN]

I am home now and will start pursuing this as aggressively as I can. I really hope we don't end up with another problem host situation, these guys were so good up until this point.

Thanks in advance for all of your effort. This server is a blast

[TinCow]

An update: things are not looking good. The server remains offline, the remote control panel remains offline, and I cannot connect via FTP. No one has responded to my support ticket. I have sent emails to 3 separate accounts, two of which used to respond very promptly to my questions/problems, but no one has responded to those either. There are backups of the server, but they are with the hosting company and I cannot access them with the entire system offline and no one responding to me.

[Tamur]

Thanks for the update... major bummer. Would it help if we all bombarded them? Probably not. Wish there were something we could do to help fix this!

[BSmith]

Did the company go out of business or something? What happens if the files are not recoverable? Do we find a new host and do a fresh start?

[TinCow]

Actually managed to get in touch with someone, though the fact that he contacted me about hosting somewhere other than Qoozio was a worrying start to the conversation. It's not looking good, but I'm holding out a sliver of hope that our world isn't toast. Here's the relevant conversation:

Hello,

Are you still hosting your minecraft server? Are you interested in getting affordable and at the same time reliable, with quick support hosting from someone else?

We at UniqueCraft rent our own hardware in Germany and have unallocated space on the node. We are convinced in that we will be able to provide you something cheaper and at the same time as reliable service as you had before. If you are interested, then please reply to my email and I will see if I will be able to get you more affordable offer depending on your requirements.

Sincerely,
[redacted].

Are you the same person ([redacted]) who helped me with tech
support issues at Qoozio previously?

Hello, Yes, I am.

Well, if you can help me recover my world save from Qoozio, I'll
certainly consider hosting with you. My server has been offline for
about a week, the control panel is also offline, and FTP won't
connect. As such I cannot even retrieve my world save to move to
another host. No one is answering my support ticket or any emails
I've sent. Do you have any way of getting me in touch with someone
who can help me? Do you know what's going on over there?

Do you remember your IP address?We are experiencing some difficulties with our hardware and I bet all data will be lost.

The IP is 176.31.100.30

I am afraid this server doesn't respond to pings anymore and is unreachable. If you wish then you can add me on skype so I could answer all of your questions quickly: "[redacted]".

I'm at work and cannot use Skype from here, sorry. Is there any
possibility that someone will be able to recover the data, or should I
just give up?

I will ask my CEO today and inform you after that.

Many thanks, I appreciate your assistance.

We might as well start having a conversation about what happens if the world save cannot be recovered. Qoozio was so reliable that I relied on their own backups to safe-guard the world. As such, I do not have any backups for the world for about the last six months. Losing that amount of work would be exceptionally painful, and I don't think any of us would want to go back to playing in that kind of map. So, I think the question is, if the world cannot be recovered, do we want to continue this server with a completely fresh map, starting from scratch, or just scrap the server and be done with it?

[BSmith]

Starting with a fresh map is far more preferable to me than scrapping it altogether. I think I would also like to start fresh instead of going back 6 months, but then that is mainly because most of what I have done on the current map has been in the last 6 months.

[Ishmael]

Obviously I'm hoping that the current backup can be recovered. If not, however, I would be leaning towards starting afresh. From past experience, nothing kills my enjoyment in a game faster than having to redo large chunks of previous progress. With that said, I haven't done anything too significant in the past six months, so ultimately I'd be fine with any outcome.