Org Minecraft Server

[Vladimir]

Bah! Rubbish! Remember that time they said it would snow?

FYI, if you haven't read the news lately there's a rather large storm headed towards my area. I would actively be surprised if I didn't lose power for at least a short period at some point in the Sunday to Tuesday time frame. Thus, if the server is offline at some point in that time period, that is almost certainly the reason. Be assured that I will get it back online ASAP if there are issues.

[spankythehippo]

OK. I seem to have a little problem. Underneath my burdock piling, I'm making a farm. Trouble is, I have not seen a cow or a pig on my island. Even worse, there is hardly any space to manoeuvre the mobs.

Any suggestions?

[Vladimir]

Portals once we upgrade.

[TinCow]

Or a rail line. Or some annoying swimming. Getting the first pairs of pigs, cows, and sheep is always annoying. They don't typically spawn underground either.

[TinCow]

The first Bukkit dev build for 1.4.2 has been released, but it's apparently very buggy and the team does not recommend it for anything other than test servers. I'm going to hold of an updating for a little while longer to give them some more time to do basic bug fixes.

[TinCow]

I've completed a projected I put off for a while: a supercharged XP farm. With the Silk Spawners mod, I harvested 3 spawners from around my base and built a triple farm with them. It works like the usual kind, but I've got three separate spawning rooms arranged around a central safe room, all dumping into a single drop chute. Each room has a toggleable lighting system as well, so that spawns can be stopped and started at will. Since there are three separate spawners which are all activated from the single safe room, it produces mobs three times as fast as normal. I just did a test run from 0xp and a cold start (lights on, no mobs in the system), and here were the results:

5 minutes = Level 14
10 minutes = Level 24
15 minutes = Level 28
19 minutes - Level 30

If anyone want to level up fast, you're welcome to use the system. It's in my Day (Gold) Annex. Just hit the button in front of each room to turn the lights off inside and start it up. I am currently using one skeleton spawner and two zombie spawners. I'd eventually like to turn it into three skeleton spawners, but I haven't found any additional skeleton spawners. If anyone finds one that you don't mind me harvesting, please let me know.

[Vladimir]

I found multiple spider spawners but will let you know. No power right now but I can see lights across the street. Very frustrating.

[TinCow]

I finally got around to exploring the Stronghold on the island near the spawn area. I've built a rail station there and will be laying a track to wherever the nearest station is, probably the town hall.

[Vladimir]

Finished a Nether rail system to my new place on the rim. It barely works and you may hit a zombie pigman throwing you in the opposite direction but it's better than walking all the way. I just need a plan for the place now...

I finally got around to exploring the Stronghold on the island near the spawn area. I've built a rail station there and will be laying a track to wherever the nearest station is, probably the town hall.

I saw a good thread on the Curse forums where a guy renovated a stronghold. It looked nice and I wonder if one can be turned into a village complete with market.

[spankythehippo]

I was thinking of a Seattle style structure. Flared bottom, narrow middle, with a glass-enclosed saucer on top to walk around and see in all directions. The pillar itself would need to have some kind of efficient ascend/descend mechanism just to avoid the climb being annoying. I tried building a really cool elevator at my place a few months ago, but it turned out to not work due to MP server lag. I've seen designs for up-only elevator systems that are supposed to work on servers. They're ugly and uni-directional, but they're pretty compact, not resource intense, and they work so that's probably what would be best to use. To get down, the fastest method would just be a drop-chute with a pool at the bottom.

When I saw your elevator, I noticed how massive the circuitry is. I don't know if this will help, but it is a hell of a lot more compact.

[TinCow]

I saw a good thread on the Curse forums where a guy renovated a stronghold. It looked nice and I wonder if one can be turned into a village complete with market.

Anyone is welcome to do what they want to it. The rail line to the stronghold is complete, and it connects to the noob hotel. You can see it on the map now (I'll update the rail map later... it needs a complete re-do). The rail station is right next to the End Portal inside the stronghold, for convenience, though the portal still needs two more eyes of ender before it will work. I've lit most of the stronghold so it should be relatively safe, though I suspect there are a lot of silverfish blocks left around.

When I saw your elevator, I noticed how massive the circuitry is. I don't know if this will help, but it is a hell of a lot more compact.

I haven't found a tutorial for a zipper style that works on SMP, and the comments on that one indicate it doesn't either. The one I built was awesome, and worked as intended... but server lag issues made it unworkable for the same reason as the rest. I disassembled it because there was no way to fix it. The only version I've ever seen that appears to work consistently on server is this ugly-as-sin pressure plate style:



You can find a lot of videos of that kind of elevator out there, and it's what I would propose using. It's very compact and resource efficient. While it's perhaps not nice enough for me to put in my own base (I have high standards for my in-house redstone devices), I think it would be the best choice for a space needle design. Since it's up-only, it requires a plunge pool to descend quickly.

[spankythehippo]

I haven't found a tutorial for a zipper style that works on SMP, and the comments on that one indicate it doesn't either. The one I built was awesome, and worked as intended... but server lag issues made it unworkable for the same reason as the rest. I disassembled it because there was no way to fix it. The only version I've ever seen that appears to work consistently on server is this ugly-as-sin pressure plate style:



You can find a lot of videos of that kind of elevator out there, and it's what I would propose using. It's very compact and resource efficient. While it's perhaps not nice enough for me to put in my own base (I have high standards for my in-house redstone devices), I think it would be the best choice for a space needle design. Since it's up-only, it requires a plunge pool to descend quickly.

I do enjoy massive redstone structures, especially the ones that make lots of noise. But it seems all piston elevators are buggy in SMP. What about a boat/minecart elevator? It isn't as fancy as a piston elevator, but it's less troublesome.

[Vladimir]

I do enjoy massive redstone structures, especially the ones that make lots of noise. But it seems all piston elevators are buggy in SMP. What about a boat/minecart elevator? It isn't as fancy as a piston elevator, but it's less troublesome.

If you enjoy massive redstone structures I'll pay you to finish the stadium scoreboard.

[TinCow]

If you enjoy massive redstone structures I'll pay you to finish the stadium scoreboard.

I'll take care of it if I can have the leftover redstone.

[Vladimir]

I'll take care of it if I can have the leftover redstone.

From our prior conversation I take that to mean Mega Mob Spawner: One, or more, of each type.

[TinCow]

From our prior conversation I take that to mean Mega Mob Spawner: One, or more, of each type.

That's a project that's on my to-do list, but it wasn't why I asked. I just tend to use a ton of redstone in general. I like to automate everything I can, just for fun. The stuff I build these days tends to use a lot of repeaters, and each repeater uses up 3 redstone dust, so I go through it quickly. I've reclaimed about two stacks of repeaters by scrapping my elevator, but I'm still low on the actual dust.

[Vladimir]

That's a project that's on my to-do list, but it wasn't why I asked. I just tend to use a ton of redstone in general. I like to automate everything I can, just for fun. The stuff I build these days tends to use a lot of repeaters, and each repeater uses up 3 redstone dust, so I go through it quickly. I've reclaimed about two stacks of repeaters by scrapping my elevator, but I'm still low on the actual dust.

You just wanted the redstone? Take it, it's yours. It doesn't take too much for me to wire my cities with power.

[TinCow]

Bukkit has released a beta build for 1.4.2. While it is still got some bugs, the team proclaim them to be relatively minor and for the overall build to be stable. As such, I am going to upgrade the server to that version tonight. The server will be offline for a short while when I do this, and I may be rebooting it several times to test any plugin compatibility issues that arise.

[edit] The server is now running 1.4.2. Please let me know if you see any bugs. FYI, the current release of Bukkit has this note on it:

Monsters, villagers, etc. using portals (added in Minecraft 1.4) has been temporarily disabled.

[spankythehippo]

Whoa! Who built that pyramid in the middle of the ocean at X = 1639 Z = 4857?

[Vladimir]

Nice lighting pattern. Looks like someone likes the sand generator.

[TinCow]

Whoa! Who built that pyramid in the middle of the ocean at X = 1639 Z = 4857?

LOL, that was therother. He did that probably about four months ago but didn't say anything about it because he wanted to see who would notice. I think I was the only one until now. I tend to survey the map in night mod heavily zoomed out to find new constructions, which is how I located it.

[Ishmael]

LOL, that was therother. He did that probably about four months ago but didn't say anything about it because he wanted to see who would notice. I think I was the only one until now. I tend to survey the map in night mod heavily zoomed out to find new constructions, which is how I located it.

I actually discovered that a few weeks back completely by accident, but never got around to mentioning it. I was looking for Vlad's village portal, got chased by ghasts for a bit (no bow on me), and somehow ended up there .

[spankythehippo]

So, pigs are no longer turned on my wheat. But so far, I have not found a single carrot. I heard they can be dropped by zombies rarely, but I have had no such luck. If any one has any left over carrots that they are willing to part with, I will be grateful. I only need one for cultivation.

[TinCow]

So, pigs are no longer turned on my wheat. But so far, I have not found a single carrot. I heard they can be dropped by zombies rarely, but I have had no such luck. If any one has any left over carrots that they are willing to part with, I will be grateful. I only need one for cultivation.

I have a small number of potatoes and carrots from my xp farm. I will be putting down farms for both in the near future so I'll be able to supply you with those shortly.

[spankythehippo]

I have a small number of potatoes and carrots from my xp farm. I will be putting down farms for both in the near future so I'll be able to supply you with those shortly.

Thanks! I really need to get a proper farm going. I can't be bother tree farming for my castle since it's so slow. I'll just finish smaller projects first, then tackle the castle.

[Vladimir]

I actually discovered that a few weeks back completely by accident, but never got around to mentioning it. I was looking for Vlad's village portal, got chased by ghasts for a bit (no bow on me), and somehow ended up there .

Which one? I finished the Nether rail system to my third village (second with portal). Both portal routes are protected now.

[spankythehippo]

Nice lighting pattern. Looks like someone likes the sand generator.

I did that. It temporarily fixes the suffocation thing. When sand or gravel falls on a torch, it drops itself as an item.

[Ishmael]

Which one? I finished the Nether rail system to my third village (second with portal). Both portal routes are protected now.

The one to the south of my place (don't worry, I've found the portal now).

Apologies for my inactivity of late - I've been idly considering a few plans, but still haven't really decided what I'll be doing next. My complete inability to design anything more complex than basic geometric shapes does not help in this regards .

[TinCow]

My complete inability to design anything more complex than basic geometric shapes does not help in this regards .

The internet is a great source of inspiration. Figure out the basic kind of structure you're interested and do a google image search of that with minecraft tagged on. You'll get all kinds of results, some of which might work.

[TinCow]

Thanks! I really need to get a proper farm going. I can't be bother tree farming for my castle since it's so slow. I'll just finish smaller projects first, then tackle the castle.

My carrot and potato farms are now installed and fully planted in my agricultural sector. Feel free to harvest as much as you want, just replant afterwards.