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[spankythehippo]

I haven't checked the Wiki for a while but I don't think that's how it works. Golem spawning is calculated per village. If you have enough villagers an Iron golem should spawn in the center.

There aren't that many global villagers. Certainly not that many in my towns.

If there are too many global villagers, then the Farm villagers will not detect the village doors within 6 seconds. This is a big deal, since each village is detected on a timer, so all 32 villages will not be detected at all if the detection process takes longer than 6 seconds. The iron golems will spawn, if this was a single village with an infinite amount of time to spawn.

Does anyone mind if I go to all the non-player controlled villagers and massacre everyone there?

[Vladimir]

If there are too many global villagers, then the Farm villagers will not detect the village doors within 6 seconds. This is a big deal, since each village is detected on a timer, so all 32 villages will not be detected at all if the detection process takes longer than 6 seconds. The iron golems will spawn, if this was a single village with an infinite amount of time to spawn.

Does anyone mind if I go to all the non-player controlled villagers and massacre everyone there?

This makes me worry about bringing villagers to the Nether. I wanted to have my own servants in hell.

[TinCow]

Massacring villagers is not a good idea unless we have some kind of idea of exactly what the population cap is that we need to be under. The vast majority of villagers are concentrated in the developed villages. If those villages alone are over the cap, killing of the wild villages won't help.

[Ishmael]

Is the plan for a resource-gathering world still on the table? If so it could be located there, and just copy-pasted with MCEdit whenever that world was reset (which wouldn't be all that often). It's not the most elegant solution, but it saves damaging our current world.

spanky, where did you find this info about a global cap?

[spankythehippo]

I'm trying to avoid massacring everyone, so I did think of several solutions in my sleep. If these solutions don't work, then massacring villagers won't help. The proposed Massacre Bill has been revoked.

Aridhol, I learnt this info about the global cap from the guy who did the tutorial. He has extensive knowledge on how villagers work. There isn't a global cap for villagers. There is a "global cap" for villagers if an Iron Farm is present in the world. All the timers involved in this farm are based on the 6 seconds it takes for a villager to detect a door. When the "global cap" has been exceeded, then it takes a bit longer for villagers to detect doors. Which means the system will fail to recognise villages, and no iron golems will spawn. So, that will be one of my solutions i.e. increasing the timer duration by a factor of 2. The entire rebuild process will take a lot longer, but it prevents unnecessary genocide.


EDIT: TC, is this mod compatible with the server?

http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/villagemarker/

[TinCow]

Is the plan for a resource-gathering world still on the table?

Yes. That's my next big project after the HD map improvement (which just finished rendering, btw). I'll try and get that up next weekend.

EDIT: TC, is this mod compatible with the server?

http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/villagemarker/

Not yet, but it looks like a compatible version should be available in a day or two.

[BSmith]

Any idea why hardened clay is not showing up in our realtime map? White and red dyed clay are not displaying at all.

[TinCow]

Dynmap probably needs an update. I will look into it.

[Papewaio]

All hardened clay colours I have at my village are black on the map.

Each of my gates is a different colour wool and they show up on the map.
The corresponding tower or statue in my village has hardened clay components and they show black.

I've got a red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple gate. With corresponding towers or statues for each (except purple).

I agree that it is an update issue, hay bales also turn up black in my horse stables.

[TinCow]

There are some reports that the current Dynmap version has memory leak issues. I would prefer to put off updating it until a non-alpha version has been released.

[spankythehippo]

TC, I believe the Village Marker Mod has been updated. I will only need it for a few days, maybe a week.

[Nigel]

To continue the work on the Old Town, I am planning to build a tower between @BSmith 's house and the bridge.

The picture shows the position I have in mind, but I can still move it somewhere else if anyone thinks this is not a good place for it.

[TinCow]

TC, I believe the Village Marker Mod has been updated. I will only need it for a few days, maybe a week.

I'll add it when I get home this evening.

To continue the work on the Old Town, I am planning to build a tower between @BSmith 's house and the bridge.

The picture shows the position I have in mind, but I can still move it somewhere else if anyone thinks this is not a good place for it.

In case this was forgotten, it is acceptable to knock down the pre-existing buildings/farms on the edge of the planned Old Town area. They were built by danhook, who has not been online in many, many months. I talked to him about this several months ago, at which time he told me that he had no plans to return to Minecraft. If those buildings can be incorporated into the design, that's great, but don't stress about it too much if you think they need to be removed to build the Old Town.

[TinCow]

TC, I believe the Village Marker Mod has been updated. I will only need it for a few days, maybe a week.

It is now installed. Let me know if you have any problems with it.

[spankythehippo]

It is now installed. Let me know if you have any problems with it.

I think I am having problems. I can't see the lines signalling a village. I went to Vlad's village to check if it worked there. It didn't. Do I have to enter a command to see it?

[TinCow]

I think I am having problems. I can't see the lines signalling a village. I went to Vlad's village to check if it worked there. It didn't. Do I have to enter a command to see it?

Did you install the client-side mod? This plugin doesn't work as a server-side standalone, you have to have the client portion installed as well.

[spankythehippo]

I would like to add someone to the server. The username is RedCow19.

[TinCow]

I would like to add someone to the server. The username is RedCow19.

Added. More cows are always welcome. Hippos too, I suppose.

[Vinitharya]

This is Telcontar. For the past few sessions, I've been securing, giving directions in, and ghast-proofing the main paths of the Nether. It'll take a while, especially on the Nether Brick Road, but I'm sick of getting lost and/or running for my life every time I need to get around the map quickly. The current paths are just cobblestone covers with some wiggle room, but I'll make them better-looking and give them windows in time. Eventually, I'll put rails in the long parts of the Nether, and it will all become just safe enough to build something nice at the main portal nexus maybe.

[BSmith]

Given that danhook isn’t playing anymore and that we have permission to demolish his buildings if we feel it is interfering with the new Old Town area (which I think we should try to avoid if at all possible), I decided to repatriate a majority of the resources he had stocked in his buildings.

Since I want to be fair about this and not hoard all of the resources for myself, I have made many of these resources public thorough various means. My goal is that these resources will help build the city, or help players with specific needs - preferably ones that will ultimately benefit the community and not just the individual.

To that end I have placed the following resources in the chests outside of the Town Hall:

20 stacks of stone brick that I crafted from cobble
20 stacks of stone that I crafted from cobble
12 stacks of glass blocks that I crafted from sand
5 stacks Nether Brick Blocks

I have given all of the redstone to Vladimir for his gold farm project – around a stack and a half of redstone blocks – and made some iron tools and swords and placed them in the Noob hotel.

I also built a communal blacksmith with furnaces, anvils and a cobblestone generator next to the bridge in Old Town. Please feel free to use this resource, all I ask is that you replenish the fuel as you can.

I have planted a temporary forest across from the lodge and space needle that is for communal use as well. Please just replant as you cut down the trees so we always have a lot of trees available. If you have designs on that plot of land, by all means please start building something there. Don’t let the forest stop you – we can always plant another one somewhere else.

Danhook also had three mob spawners. I don’t currently have a need for them but if you do please let me know and I’ll see that you get them.

[Vinitharya]

Given that danhook isn’t playing anymore and that we have permission to demolish his buildings if we feel it is interfering with the new Old Town area (which I think we should try to avoid if at all possible), I decided to repatriate a majority of the resources he had stocked in his buildings.

Since I want to be fair about this and not hoard all of the resources for myself, I have made many of these resources public thorough various means. My goal is that these resources will help build the city, or help players with specific needs - preferably ones that will ultimately benefit the community and not just the individual.

To that end I have placed the following resources in the chests outside of the Town Hall:

20 stacks of stone brick that I crafted from cobble
20 stacks of stone that I crafted from cobble
12 stacks of glass blocks that I crafted from sand
5 stacks Nether Brick Blocks

I have given all of the redstone to Vladimir for his gold farm project – around a stack and a half of redstone blocks – and made some iron tools and swords and placed them in the Noob hotel.

I also built a communal blacksmith with furnaces, anvils and a cobblestone generator next to the bridge in Old Town. Please feel free to use this resource, all I ask is that you replenish the fuel as you can.

I have planted a temporary forest across from the lodge and space needle that is for communal use as well. Please just replant as you cut down the trees so we always have a lot of trees available. If you have designs on that plot of land, by all means please start building something there. Don’t let the forest stop you – we can always plant another one somewhere else.

Danhook also had three mob spawners. I don’t currently have a need for them but if you do please let me know and I’ll see that you get them.

Thanks, some of those resources have already made their way into my Nether Highway. Incidentally, since we will all be using them, and entrapped within them most of the time, I might as well make the path look nice. Anyone have any block suggestions? TinCow, do you wanna see some Quartz Blocks, I know from your place that they pair well with the glowstone I plan on using to light it.

[Papewaio]

I could use some quartz for the green line in the Nether.

I put rings of quartz at the center part of the line.

Plan is to finish the last quarter of it the. Join a green hardened clay tower from 0,0 up to the height of the line.

[TinCow]

It occurs to me that any proper city needs a central train station. It seems very wrong that the closest rail stop to the city is in the Noob Hotel. I also don't like that we've got to use the portal by the floating castle. As such, I am going to begin work on a central train/portal station for the city. I will place it in the narrow strip of land between Sigurd's original two buildings and the Space Needle. After the structure itself is completed, it might be worthwhile to re-route some of the rail lines to converge on that area as a main hub.

Thanks, some of those resources have already made their way into my Nether Highway. Incidentally, since we will all be using them, and entrapped within them most of the time, I might as well make the path look nice. Anyone have any block suggestions? TinCow, do you wanna see some Quartz Blocks, I know from your place that they pair well with the glowstone I plan on using to light it.

I do not have any personal preferences. I have not done much to beautify the Nether, so I shall defer to those who are actually engaged in the project.

[Sigurd]

Ok... whomever is building on my turf...

The world is big enough for all to do their stuff... but my turf is holy ground.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

This is a no no... I have plans for the area in front and sides of my castle.. also to those mining at extreme close proximity of the castle; please relocate.

[Papewaio]

I didn't make the road. But I had to mine my way out when my mule and I fell down the chasm.

Was on a joy ride around the map and saw the castle ahead but not the chasm below. Thankfully the mule and I only fell to the ledge part way down. Unfortunately when I dismounted I fell to the bottom and then whilst leaking hearts from the fall got rumbled by zombies and a spider.

So to get out I needed a safe room, a bridge and a large stairway for the mule. I explored the castle and have left the mule tied up by a gate for now. I will make a safe route out to my village with bridges and the like but will backfill the chasm stairway and bridge on the way out. I'll create a lit path outside the fence line and bridges from there.

Awesome castle.

[Vinitharya]

My apologies Sig, I actually broke down that section of road even before I saw your post, as I thought it was ugly. I'm planning on making my mega-project in the mountains to the west of your castle, across the ocean. I was hoping to, in time, link it over to your castle's rail station, as it's the most obvious choice for a train-connection. I haven't caught you online since then, but I would like your permission to use one of your unused train slots for it. Is that okay? I'd build the line myself, underground if need be.

[Sigurd]

I didn't make the road. But I had to mine my way out when my mule and I fell down the chasm.

Was on a joy ride around the map and saw the castle ahead but not the chasm below. Thankfully the mule and I only fell to the ledge part way down. Unfortunately when I dismounted I fell to the bottom and then whilst leaking hearts from the fall got rumbled by zombies and a spider.

So to get out I needed a safe room, a bridge and a large stairway for the mule. I explored the castle and have left the mule tied up by a gate for now. I will make a safe route out to my village with bridges and the like but will backfill the chasm stairway and bridge on the way out. I'll create a lit path outside the fence line and bridges from there.

Awesome castle.

Sorry about the chasm. I have been planning to do something about it.
You can lead the horse/mule through the nether portals if you dare. I took my horse to the city not too long ago. I have opened the portcullis (all though it doesn't work as it did before 1.5 - the sticky pistons seem to not retract all the way for the gravel to fall into place).
I have built a guest stable around your mule... all though it seems the leads somehow break after a while (found your mule wandering at the back of my castle).
My grey stallion is missing... and I think it might have killed itself wandering into my lavafall.

My apologies Sig, I actually broke down that section of road even before I saw your post, as I thought it was ugly. I'm planning on making my mega-project in the mountains to the west of your castle, across the ocean. I was hoping to, in time, link it over to your castle's rail station, as it's the most obvious choice for a train-connection. I haven't caught you online since then, but I would like your permission to use one of your unused train slots for it. Is that okay? I'd build the line myself, underground if need be.

No problem connecting a rail to my rail station. We shall find a solution for that.

[Papewaio]

I can earth over the chasm. Make it bumpy like the landscape and plant trees and/or torches when I get back if you want.

I've got about 7 horses and a donkey that you can use as parents to a foal.

Some reason my saddles seem to be disappearing

[Vladimir]

Did someone say they needed quartz? PM me if you need some.

[BSmith]

Is it possible to crush cobblestone? I want to make a fully automated cobble generator.