Org Minecraft Server

[TinCow]

Regarding the old backup, by itself the single overworld map doesn't take up a ton of disk space without a map. It might be feasible to put that world online just like Mineworld so that people can still access it, though disk space constraints would mean that I couldn't put anything more than a very basic low res map of it up.

Before I consider using a major mod pack like FTB or Tekkit, I'd like to have some more conversation about the topic. I do like the idea of mods that add new features to the game and fill in some gaps that vanilla is missing, but I also feel like a lot of these mods have gone way too far beyond vanilla. It seems like in a lot of them the tech tree itself is so massive that people simply focus on climbing the tech tree and don't have anywhere near as much interest in building structures. How do others feel about this? Another factor is also that a crapton of mods means we need a more powerful server, which means I need to pay more, which means my wife might murder me in my sleep.

[BSmith]

I'm fine with keeping it relatively vanilla.

[Tamur]

All not in favour of TinCow being murdered in his sleep, say aye

The more vanilla the better, even with potential husband-icide not considered. Minecraft to me is all about discovery and problem-solving and creativity. The big mods generally encourage the opposite, in my experience.

[Sigurd]

Aye...

Exploring isn't my thing - I like terraforming & building structures. I think mining is a chore and go to great lenghts to make mining as efficient as possible (efficiency 5 tools and 4 tier beacon). Any other machinery that would aid in gathering resources for building structures is welcomed on my part. I built the enderfarm to aid in keeping tools fresh and get enderpearls to move faster on construction sites (seldom using ladders).

Maybe a new server could start out as something of a story? How do we end up at a new fresh world?

[Vinitharya]

Regarding the old backup, by itself the single overworld map doesn't take up a ton of disk space without a map. It might be feasible to put that world online just like Mineworld so that people can still access it, though disk space constraints would mean that I couldn't put anything more than a very basic low res map of it up.

Before I consider using a major mod pack like FTB or Tekkit, I'd like to have some more conversation about the topic. I do like the idea of mods that add new features to the game and fill in some gaps that vanilla is missing, but I also feel like a lot of these mods have gone way too far beyond vanilla. It seems like in a lot of them the tech tree itself is so massive that people simply focus on climbing the tech tree and don't have anywhere near as much interest in building structures. How do others feel about this? Another factor is also that a crapton of mods means we need a more powerful server, which means I need to pay more, which means my wife might murder me in my sleep.

A fair point. Perhaps a more limited approach to mods would be best, but there is such possibility with some of the mods that I've always wanted to try, specifically IndustrialCraft, Buildcraft, Forestry, Iron Chests, RedPower (I think), and mayyyyyybe railcraft. Not a fan of the supernatural magic-mods. Also, I'm with Sigurd here. I like poking around and exploring the depths of the earth now and again, but I would love the ability to take a relatively compact area, claim it for my own, and, with enough time investment, build literally anything without using a copout like creative.

[spankythehippo]

Also, since the server is international, something like FTB would lag. A lot. I have 12 GB RAM allocated to Minecraft alone when I'm playing, and the server still lags quite a bit, even with the fastest settings.

[Ishmael]

Chipping in with my two cents, I've always preferred to have things as vanilla as possible. Stuff like TreeAssist and MobCatcher helped reduce monotony, but didn't fundamentally alter the nature or resource gathering. I can't help but feel that if we had industrial-style mods we'd all soon be swimming in resources, and essentially playing creative mode sans flying. Whilst we had a lot of assistance in the previous server, at the end of the day if you wanted to build something big you'd have to put in some effort beforehand, and I quite liked that.

[newO_ajniN]

Another factor is also that a crapton of mods means we need a more powerful server, which means I need to pay more, which means my wife might murder me in my sleep.

Aye. What about setting up a paypal account and allowing the community to chip in a little coin if they can to help offset your expenses?

I'm all for minimal mods; like love tree assist and mobcatcher.

[Tuuvi]

Regarding the old backup, by itself the single overworld map doesn't take up a ton of disk space without a map. It might be feasible to put that world online just like Mineworld so that people can still access it, though disk space constraints would mean that I couldn't put anything more than a very basic low res map of it up.

Before I consider using a major mod pack like FTB or Tekkit, I'd like to have some more conversation about the topic. I do like the idea of mods that add new features to the game and fill in some gaps that vanilla is missing, but I also feel like a lot of these mods have gone way too far beyond vanilla. It seems like in a lot of them the tech tree itself is so massive that people simply focus on climbing the tech tree and don't have anywhere near as much interest in building structures. How do others feel about this? Another factor is also that a crapton of mods means we need a more powerful server, which means I need to pay more, which means my wife might murder me in my sleep.

Based on what I've seen watching FTB and Tekkit videos the modpacks don't disable vanilla crafting recipes, so players would be free to choose their own play style and the extent at which they take advantage of the content added in the mods. In vanilla minecraft I don't make much use of redstone, while other players like to build complex redstone contraptions.

Chipping in with my two cents, I've always preferred to have things as vanilla as possible. Stuff like TreeAssist and MobCatcher helped reduce monotony, but didn't fundamentally alter the nature or resource gathering. I can't help but feel that if we had industrial-style mods we'd all soon be swimming in resources, and essentially playing creative mode sans flying. Whilst we had a lot of assistance in the previous server, at the end of the day if you wanted to build something big you'd have to put in some effort beforehand, and I quite liked that.

The resource gathering machines in FTB and Tekkit require a lot of materials and infrastructure in order to build and use. Quarries, for example, require gold and diamonds to craft, and then need engines to power them, pipes to transport the mined materials, and furnaces to smelt the ores into ingots. So you still have to put in a lot of effort and do some vanilla mining, but then the process of mining is automated so you don't have to spend hours on end monotonously mining cobblestone in order to build anything large. Personally I think the process of building the infrastructure looks like fun in and of itself.

[Vinitharya]

I concur with Tuuvi. I'm the worst kind of engineer, the one that enjoys neither math nor physics, but the specific mods I mentioned means that it won't matter. If I put in enough effort into strengthening my infrastructure, I can build all of the things I've always wanted to without cheapening it by giving myself the blocks for free. The ceiling for improvement is put extremely high in doing so.

And, if, say, TC wants to build another glorious palace of Nether Quartz, he doesn't need dozens of man-hours (his or others) spent mining and mining and mining. He could plan it and place it, spending more time on aesthetics and design.

[BSmith]

I've been playing a little bit of Galacticraft this week and am starting to enjoy the added functionality and learning curve of added machines and resources. I could be convinced to give a more featured mod a chance. My only concern is that the server would advance in pace and scale faster than a more vanilla world would, and we would be at a similar place as TinCow was with things not being much of a challenge anymore much more quickly. But that is a longer term concern and could be outweighed by the newfangled additions a good mod might bring.

[Vinitharya]

I've been playing a little bit of Galacticraft this week and am starting to enjoy the added functionality and learning curve of added machines and resources. I could be convinced to give a more featured mod a chance. My only concern is that the server would advance in pace and scale faster than a more vanilla world would, and we would be at a similar place as TinCow was with things not being much of a challenge anymore much more quickly. But that is a longer term concern and could be outweighed by the newfangled additions a good mod might bring.

Right, that's why if we did something like that, we would be pretty damned careful with the ones we would pick. As few as possible, to keep costs and latency down.

[TinCow]

And, if, say, TC wants to build another glorious palace of Nether Quartz, he doesn't need dozens of man-hours (his or others) spent mining and mining and mining. He could plan it and place it, spending more time on aesthetics and design.

Without all the hours of work, it wouldn't have been much of an accomplishment.

[TinCow]

Please ping the following servers and post your results:
texas.prominecrafthost.com
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[Sigurd]

Please ping the following servers and post your results:
texas.prominecrafthost.com
uk.prominecrafthost.com