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[TinCow]

FYI, I am building a road out from my place towards the future city site. I'm not sure who added the map marker with the proposed city center location, but I agree with the proposal. That hill is a great site and I am going to construct my road on the assumption that will be the center of the city. Last time we had a basic blueprint of the city sketched out to assist us with plot division and such for construction purposes, and it would probably be a good idea to do that once again.

[Sigurd]

I'm not sure who added the map marker with the proposed city center location, but I agree with the proposal.

That was me...

[Vinitharya]

FYI, I am building a road out from my place towards the future city site. I'm not sure who added the map marker with the proposed city center location, but I agree with the proposal. That hill is a great site and I am going to construct my road on the assumption that will be the center of the city. Last time we had a basic blueprint of the city sketched out to assist us with plot division and such for construction purposes, and it would probably be a good idea to do that once again.

I'd be happy to plan something like that with some suggestions as to what would be needed.

[Vinitharya]

Oh, TC, I think your farms aren't lit enough:

[Sigurd]

Alright... I have spent the resources that you guys gave me and it gave us two tiers of spawn platforms.
I have started constructing the farm base, but as you can see I didn't get far.

Good news is: Its working.

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Exp mode:

So.. If you need enderpearls, they can be collected. The base is however not entirely safe as endermen can teleport into the base area.
The rail is safe though.

The old enderfarm had 17 tiers of spawn platforms with 26 spawning spots on every tier.

This enderfarm has currently only 2 tiers, but has 42 spawning spots on every tier we decide to make.
It is considerably lower in the end and can potentially have more tiers than the old farm (shouldn't go above y128).

The numbers:
Each tier needs:

42 sticky pistons
42 pressure plates.
20 repeaters
22 redstone
168 stone (can use cobble as it is the upper non-viewable parts of the farm.)

I am depleted on:
pistons (have lots of slime balls - so ordinary pistons are wanted)
repeaters (only few left)
pressure plates (not much smooth stone left)
glass (gone)
glow stone (only 10 left - need more lighting)
I am adding wool into the farm (have left 3 stacks white)
16 bookshelves (wanted for the enchanting area)
Anvils (repair shop)

[TinCow]

I'm getting a hankering to get started on some of the city stuff. As with the last time, I feel like starting on the Arena first. However, before we can do that we need to start talking about some general layout ideas, particularly since some people already have begun construction around the fringes of the proposed city areas. I have marked out the existing area and have some proposals to make.

In the below map, the red circle is the proposed city center, on the hill. Purple areas are where players have already started construction on personal projects. The yellow areas are open areas that are most immediately and obviously available for general city construction (though further room exists in all directions if those areas get filled). The blue circle and the green oval are proposed sites for the Arena. The blue circle is the approximate size of the arena on the old server. However, I'd like to make the new one even bigger than last time, and I'd like to make it a hippodrome style building as well (half circle ends, straight middle). The green oval is a sketch of the general area that such an expanded arena would take up. I've looked all over, and that spot is really about the only place we could fit an elongated arena while still keeping it nicely oriented towards the city center. The only problem with this setup is that it overlaps with part of the area that Telcontar recently marked out for his personal construction. If he really needs that southeastern corner of his area, the only other options I see for the arena are turning it sideways and extending it towards the current spawn spot (disadvantage in that the main entrance would be on a short end), or moving it down into the desert that is southwest of the current location (disadvantage in that it's not near the city center at all). A third option is to stick with a circular arena, which could be made a bit larger without taking up quite so much space.

Thoughts?

@Vinitharya

[BSmith]

We also need to think about placement of the iron farm and any other utilities that need to be in the spawn chunks.

Are the always loaded spawn chunks movable? Do we know generally where their borders are?

I've been thinking of a gold farm as well and have seen some YouTube examples of overworld farms that use Mega portals. Does anyone know if one was built in the spawn if it would work continuously like the iron farm would? If not, any ideas on if an overworld farm or nether farm would be better, and what the appropriate location would be?

[Vinitharya]

We also need to think about placement of the iron farm and any other utilities that need to be in the spawn chunks.

Are the always loaded spawn chunks movable? Do we know generally where their borders are?

I've been thinking of a gold farm as well and have seen some YouTube examples of overworld farms that use Mega portals. Does anyone know if one was built in the spawn if it would work continuously like the iron farm would? If not, any ideas on if an overworld farm or nether farm would be better, and what the appropriate location would be?

Before anything like that is considered, realize that iron and pigman gold farms are going to be nerfed hard. You must now strike the killing blow to get anything.

[spankythehippo]

Before anything like that is considered, realize that iron and pigman gold farms are going to be nerfed hard. You must now strike the killing blow to get anything.

Well... that sucks. I'm pretty sure there would be new designs very soon.

[Sigurd]

A little update on the enderfarm...

I made a slight miscalculation placing the water curtain, thinking it smart to put the water source block up against a cobble block, thinking if I knocked the cobble away, the source would continue to flow where it did before.
Not so... It started flushing into the farm.. So I need to remove all the source blocks and redo it. Which will be sometime tomorrow.

Hence the farm is currently not usable.

[Sigurd]

Before anything like that is considered, realize that iron and pigman gold farms are going to be nerfed hard. You must now strike the killing blow to get anything.

Well... that sucks. I'm pretty sure there would be new designs very soon.

@spankythehippo
If you want to make the iron farm now... to collect "a few" chests (read: hoarding) before it gets nerfed, I can help. I have built it (framework) in SP once, so I am familiar with the design.

[spankythehippo]

@spankythehippo
If you want to make the iron farm now... to collect "a few" chests (read: hoarding) before it gets nerfed, I can help. I have built it (framework) in SP once, so I am familiar with the design.

Might be difficult without the Village Marker Mod, but still doable. Just give me the location and I'll start hauling all the supplies there. Shouldn't take too long to build.

[Sigurd]

Might be difficult without the Village Marker Mod, but still doable. Just give me the location and I'll start hauling all the supplies there. Shouldn't take too long to build.

Right... any way we could get this mod installed just for the build. Or does it not exist for 1.7.2? @TinCow The location of the new n00b hotel needs to be pinpointed and spawn chunks relocated?

I started on a city map on my other laptop where I put down a few locations... I had the noob hotel on the west side of the hill with the new arena further west (narrow end towards city). The hill and its south side being the old town with a ancient Norman keep on top of the hill. North and east being the primary industrial area, with a docking area around the river north of the hill.

[Sigurd]

Enderfarm Mrk.II is again operational. I got the feeling that it already outperforms the old one. Could be just the euphoria of finally getting the water curtains right and testing the thing. I know I died just before finishing the curtain (endermen apparently don't like that you drop a pick-axe on their toes). I got to 46 pretty fast.

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There is an enchanting table with 16 bookshelves... but we lack an ender chest and a few anvils, and some lighting (ran out of glowstone).

Edit: just did a test.
0 -> 30 xp in 1 min 26 sec. (let it fill up before starting).

[TinCow]

Right... any way we could get this mod installed just for the build. Or does it not exist for 1.7.2? @TinCow The location of the new n00b hotel needs to be pinpointed and spawn chunks relocated?

The plugin has not been updated for 1.7.2.

As for the location, the spawn chunks are centered on the server spawn point, wherever that is. I don't see any point in moving the server spawn to that hill until the hill itself has been worked on and the noob hotel has been built. I'm going to start with the Arena, not the hill or noob hotel, so until someone else gets moving on that project there's no prospect of the server spawn changing. So, you could just build the temporary iron farm near the current spawn point. That would keep it out of the way of the early city construction. Since it will stop working with 1.8 anyway, there's no significant drawback of having it located in a spot that will eventually cease to be a spawn chunk.

[Csargo]

Enderfarm Mrk.II is again operational. I got the feeling that it already outperforms the old one. Could be just the euphoria of finally getting the water curtains right and testing the thing. I know I died just before finishing the curtain (endermen apparently don't like that you drop a pick-axe on their toes). I got to 46 pretty fast.

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There is an enchanting table with 16 bookshelves... but we lack an ender chest and a few anvils, and some lighting (ran out of glowstone).

Edit: just did a test.
0 -> 30 xp in 1 min 26 sec. (let it fill up before starting).

I placed an ender chest.

[Vinitharya]

...My horse got blowed up.

I would find a new one, but literally no horse will tame. I have worked at it for over an hour, and no horse or donkey will ever even let me on to buck me off. Furthermore, Aridhol and I have found literally no wolves anywhere, especially where they should be. I think this merits a bit of executive action...

[spankythehippo]

...My horse got blowed up.

I would find a new one, but literally no horse will tame. I have worked at it for over an hour, and no horse or donkey will ever even let me on to buck me off. Furthermore, Aridhol and I have found literally no wolves anywhere, especially where they should be. I think this merits a bit of executive action...

You can have one of my horses. If you breed any, make sure the foals are kept separate from the adults.

[Sigurd]

Just as an FYI.
The enderfarm is not finished. I haven't adjusted the spawn area so that endermen only can spawn on the push platforms. And I have only made 6 and half levels of spawn platforms. I can probably make as many as 25 and still be under the max height of this design (need to not extend beyond Y:128).

I think there is a limit of how fast you can absorb xp globes. Some of you might have seen it in the old farm.. where you can stay in a corner as yellow and green globes whirl around your face.
I have read that around 4 min to reach level 50 is max absorbing speed - this needs to be verified.

Which mean the farm might reach a point where you can't get to level 40 any faster (our target level). Which again leads to the discussion... should the farm cater for more than one player using the farm simultaneously? then we can just make 20 levels and hope it doesn't affect server performance in any way.

[newO_ajniN]

...My horse got blowed up.

I would find a new one, but literally no horse will tame. I have worked at it for over an hour, and no horse or donkey will ever even let me on to buck me off. Furthermore, Aridhol and I have found literally no wolves anywhere, especially where they should be. I think this merits a bit of executive action...

Interesting. You know horses tend to be a good judge of character. :) there might be a cooling off period that allows the blood to wash from your hands and then the horses will trust you again. Just saying. I wonder if this is also an issue for others.

[BSmith]

Another cave spider spawner at x:192, y:36, Z:-322. It has been disabled.

Does anyone know what happened to the villagers in my village? They are all gone. I took pretty good measures to mob proof the area, but they are all gone.

What is the best way to re-populate? Get them from another village with mob catcher?

[Csargo]

Another cave spider spawner at x:192, y:36, Z:-322. It has been disabled.

Does anyone know what happened to the villagers in my village? They are all gone. I took pretty good measures to mob proof the area, but they are all gone.

What is the best way to re-populate? Get them from another village with mob catcher?

When I asked to use your village a week or two ago it was totally empty, but I thought you already knew that.

[BSmith]

I haven't been in there in a while, but have been working in the area, so it is entirely possible I wasn't as thorough as I thought I was and some zombies spawned in there.

[Ishmael]

I haven't been in there in a while, but have been working in the area, so it is entirely possible I wasn't as thorough as I thought I was and some zombies spawned in there.

Bear in mind that zombie sieges can occur despite your best efforts. On multiple occasions I had half a dozen zombies spawn in front of my eyes in the old server, in the middle of my brightly lit main street. I think the probability of one occurring is proportional to the number of villagers, but despite that I found the best solution was to up the size of the village by placing a ton of doors (I put them underground, with a pane of glass to provide the required opening to the sky, to reduce the visual impact). If you have enough villagers then it's highly unlikely the zombies will kill them all, and the survivors will re-breed quickly enough. Just make sure you have enough iron golems around to kill the baby zombies and zombies with helmets come morning.

[Nigel]

Our world is developing rapidly.

Many of us have begun to build their homes and this week our first communal project, the Hippodrome has started. There is really a lot changing now.

As it happens, I went around the map on the last weekend and took some pictures of several buildings as they were at that time. I will post these "historical records" here and if you like the idea, I can do it again from time to time. It could be interesting to see how things develop and also to look back on our world in the future and remember how we started it all.

First of all, here is the central spawn - just before the Hippodrome was started.
Only a few buildinngs: the West tower of Talqun Hadasht Ba'al Gate, Ivan's old and abandoned tower, the first skeleton spawner and of course the first Noob Hotel.

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A few pictures of the ScienterCow Lair with the Rainbow Gate and the big glass dome.

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The fist sightings of the Telcontar's Colony Ship descending on our world. Who knows where it will be in a few months time.

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BSmith's Castle was one of the first big castles that were build.

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Sigurd's Domain in its early stages. There is a lovely medieval viallage in the making.

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Ivan's City in the very early stages. This area has already changed a lot and a pretty castle is appearing.

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The Talqun Hadasht at night. With a lot of other buildings visible. The lighthouse is already very impressive.

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Note also, that the island West of the lighthouse is still untouched. By now, Dash has started building his house there.


newO 's Mesa Home is build in his typical style. And he has expanded to the next hill with a stone bridge and a newly founded village.

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Here a picture of Blood Hill with the towerr build by Gondor-is-lost.

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There are also many interesting islands:
Diain's Lighthhouse

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therother's glass island - about 50% glassified

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Aridhol's Tower - the water art is well worth a visit.

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I also have a picture of Kakarot's House

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And finally my own humble abode: my Savanna Home

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Certiainly I have missed many interesting places - also I have nothing from the Nether or the End, where a lot has aleady been build (Sigurd's Enderfarm, just to mention one). If anyone feels I have missed his place, just let me know and I will make sure I will add it next time.

Hope you enjoy it.

[Ishmael]

Nice one Nigel! It's great to have somebody cataloging the world - I have a feeling that in a month or two I'll look back at your post and marvel at the changes.

[spankythehippo]

My place isn't worth posting yet. It's a cluster****. That's one of the main reasons that puts me off Minecraft. So much to do, and I don't know where to begin. I guess I should probably plan things out in writing.

[BSmith]

Just go with whatever you feel most inspired with at the time.

[TinCow]

Ventrilo server is up: 23.227.161.60
Password: 0rgcraft

Info will be posted in the OP.

[naut]

Wow, some really impressive constructs!

Also the Mesa biome looks very swish.