Hayasdan reforms

[KyodaiSteeleye]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I don't seem to be able to search the forums successfully. Anyway, the question: - what are the Hayasdan reforms, and how do they come about?

I've restarted a Hayasdan campaign, doing ok against the silver giant, but would quite like to start moving out of Satraps and into some level 1 and 2 governments....

thanks,

Span

[The_Blacksmith]

Build Sanitation lvl1, Roads and Guards

Second, a bit more complex.... but just build royal administration in every city in non-caucasian cities and build the Cylender of Cyrus... then Susa and Persepolis should be expansion regions, then upgrade barracks to lvl 3 and then the second Cylender of Cyrus in susa and Persepolis and BAM expansion other places... repeat and succed

[polehammer]

See the Hayasdan reforms guide at https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_guides.html. Note that for the first stage of reforms the city population should be 6000+ (and you should build the corresponding governor's palace) and the market should be one level higher that pictured. Of course the script should be activated!

[KyodaiSteeleye]

thanks guys

[Stark]

Do you get some new units when you reform Hayasdan into an Orontid Persia?

[d'Arthez]

In practice yes, namely those that require a higher form of government than unreformed Hayasdan allows for. There are some excellent units that require reforms.

[Stark]

Could you tell me which one? Are they shown here:

https://www.europabarbarorum.com/fac...dan_units.html

[d'Arthez]

Basically all listed high end units.

Going by the EB Recruitment viewer, since I don't have a Hai savegame available to check:

Zrahakir Netadzik (Armenian Armoured Horse-Archers)
Kardakâ Arteshtâr (Persian Hoplites)
Toxotai Syriakoi (Syrian Archers)
Khuveshavagan (which can be found on the Seleukid info page)
Shipri Tukul ( Babylonian Heavy Spearmen)
Mardig Sooseramartik (Armenian Medium Infantry)

And then there is of course the Armenian Elites:
Nakhararakan Aspet (Armenian Noble Cataphracts) (Homeland only)
Nakhararakan Tiknapah (Armenian Noble Infantry) (Homeland Only)
which technically do not require the Persian reforms, just the basic first reforms.