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    Default A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    The first thing is to forget passwords and think pass phrases.

    In terms of preventing your passphrase from being hacked by a computer, like when password files are stolen from steam or sega, the key is length, not random mashes of letters, numbers and symbols. It takes about as long for a computer to brute force the password "73*Hnk!" as it does the word "amazing".

    The key is length, and to make long passwords easy to remember you want phrases made up of words. So string 3-4 medium length words together with some capitalization, throw in a couple numbers, several special characters ( ie. * ! @ ), and make it easy for you to remember and hard for someone machine to brute force.

    Like " *Milksucks66HighwayRaincoat!! "

    Of course, do NOT use that example. Never use an example password from anywhere.

    A good resource:
    https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm

    In depth security geek discussion;
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    one verse from the bible, no not short one, a rather long one

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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Just go for 1960's psychedelic rock bands; Strawberry Subway, Marshmellow Overcoat.
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Or you can get a program to randomly create and keep your passwords, like this.


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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Or you can get a program to randomly create and keep your passwords, like this.
    Password safes are a good idea as well. Here's another safe program;

    Many computer users today have to keep track of dozens of passwords: for network accounts, online services, premium web sites. Some write their passwords on a piece of paper, leaving their accounts vulnerable to thieves or in-house snoops. Others choose the same password for different applications, which makes life easy for intruders of all kinds.
    With Password Safe, a free Windows utility designed by Bruce Schneier, users can keep their passwords securely encrypted on their computers. A single Safe Combination--just one thing to remember--unlocks them all.
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    EDIT: Not needed, feel free to delete.
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Lemur's disease spreads to the frontroom!

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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Lemur's disease spreads to the frontroom!

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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    To illustrate CR's point (literally). The 12 character upper/lower/number/symbol mechanism is rubbish.
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    That's the second Lemur in this thread.
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Maybe we need a telethon.
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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME LEST HE BE SUMMONED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME LEST HE BE SUMMONED!
    Hah!


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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    According to this a simple 8 character password with a capital a couple digits and a symbol would take 2000 centuries to guess by an online attack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    According to this a simple 8 character password with a capital a couple digits and a symbol would take 2000 centuries to guess by an online attack...
    You could set your password manager to remind you to change your password after 1999 centuries.


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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    According to this a simple 8 character password with a capital a couple digits and a symbol would take 2000 centuries to guess by an online attack...
    Online attacks are slow - delayed by connection speeds and refresh rates. You'll notice the offline attack cuts 2000 centuries to about 18 hours.

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    Default Re: A Public Service Announcement: Creating Strong Passwords

    I don't know how strong that password can stop hackers,as i experienced,even if the password characters are long and complex,it will still be cracked with some 3rd party tools.
    Learn more about them (They are professional password cracking tools).
    https://www.windows10passwordreset.com/
    https://ophcrack.sourceforge.io/
    Last edited by jamalcastillon; 11-18-2019 at 11:02.

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